Skip to comments.I despised Saddam’s police state, but the Islamic State would not exist under his rule
Posted on 09/21/2014 8:46:09 PM PDT by WilliamIII
When people ask me how I feel about the latest events in Iraq, I tell them I feel sad. All these people both Americans and Iraqis who have died since 2003 died for nothing. And as the Islamic State insurgency unfolds, and as Iraq tries once again for a peaceful political transition, Im mourning not just those who have died over the past decade, but for a country that I havent been able to recognize for a very long time.
I grew up in Baghdad in a middle-class family. My father served in the Iraqi Air Force and often traveled internationally; my mother was a math teacher; my siblings all attended college. I graduated from the most prestigious high school in Baghdad before getting my degree at pharmacy school.
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Sunnis are Moose Limbs who kill Shia and Baathist Moose Limbs in cold blood.
Shia are Moose Limbs who kill Sunni and Baathist Moose Limbs in cold blood.
What is the common denominator?
The notion of democracy is foreign to the Arab world.I'm too tired to bounce that one around tonight...but others are on that tack.
Sadaam, The Mad Man of Tripoli and Mubarak kept peace in their part of the world.
I just can’t see what the advantage was in deposing them.
The results speak for themselves and I still can’t name the leader of any of these places
“I despised Saddams police state, but the Islamic State would not exist under his rule”
But are those the only two options - Saddam or ISIS?
People get the government they deserve, and if those are the only choices they see, perhaps that’s what they deserve.
But there are other choices - though they may not come easy. As an example, the people of Egypt have managed to rid themselves of the brotherhood and Mubarek for something that’s perhaps better. I understand it remains to be seen, but at least they’re not being fatalistic. They’ve shed blood to get something they think is better.
At the end of the day, that is what it will take. The people themselves, not a foreign entity, have to fight for the government they want.
It’s the Middle East, Saddam was par for the course.
Saddam and his sons brutally killed thousands — of jihadis.
“The people” don’t decide squat.
People with real power put puppets in government to rule over the “sheeple”.
Saddam started his career as an assassin working for the CIA. He was always an asset of CIA/new world order. He was just disposed of in the second Iraq “war”.
The top of the power structure in the US is Rockefeller interests. That’s why Obama says things are “above his pay grade” - he’s absolutely correct in saying that. He’s just a minion, a face for the public. In 2016, there will just be a new puppet face, with a D or an R by its name.
I think Iran was modern and not radical muslim until Carter helped overthrow the Shaw.
This guy talks about how good it was in Iraq until Saddam invaded Kuwait. Saddam also used WOMD against the Kurds in Iraq. So it might have been good for some people, but not all. Saddam was Sunni.
Saddam was an enemy of the US who had a relatively stable regime, and was consequently a threat to the US. He regularly shot down US aircraft, and had acquired WMDs. Bush’s fault was trying to install a weak democracy in Iraq, which is now a puppet of Iran; Saddam’s government was the correct template, we just needed the leader to be pro-America.
While ISIS is certainly a threat, it would not have happened if the Iraqi region had a dictator who would crush that insurgency. Soetoro’s deliberate funding of ISIS is also a big problem. So the blame can fall on two Presidents, Bush for overestimating Iraqi competence and Soetoro for deliberately wanting ISIS to gain power, but disposing of Saddam was not a mistake.
So was Mubarek, or Mursi... they’re gone.
I don’t know yet if al-Sisi is going to be any better, but so far he’s heading in the right direction.
I don’t believe the mostly-Sunni ISIS would be bothering Sunni Saddam all that much, no.
Trying to change cultures and their people is not the way to go....they will and do resist....you will not change the muslim way of thinking..in fact just the opposite...you'll antagonize them....
They'll take all the “help” you offer them...(it's in their ideology)...and then turn against you...just exactly as they do with their own people.
“Saddam started his career as an assassin working for the CIA. He was always an asset of CIA/new world order. He was just disposed of in the second Iraq war.”
And your source for this is what?
The New York Times.
>> “And your source for this is what? <<
How about good old common sense?
He was a puppet.
When the puppet got big ideas, he was snuffed.
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