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The Jihadi Logic: Lure the U.S. into the fight that Obama will quit, as in Iraq
National Review ^ | 09/19/2014 | Charles Krauthhammer

Posted on 09/19/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

What was the Islamic State thinking? We know it is sophisticated in its use of modern media. But what was the logic of propagating to the world videos of its beheadings of two Americans (and subsequently a Briton) — sure to inflame public opinion?

There are two possible explanations. One is that these terrorists are more depraved and less savvy than we think. They so glory in blood that they could not resist making an international spectacle of their savagery and did not quite fathom how such a brazen, contemptuous slaughter of Americans would radically alter public opinion and risk bringing down upon them the furies of the U.S. Air Force.

The second theory is that they were fully aware of the inevitable consequence of their broadcast beheadings — and they intended the outcome. It was an easily sprung trap to provoke America into entering the Mesopotamian war.

Why?

Because they’re sure we will lose. Not immediately and not militarily. They know we always win the battles, but they are convinced that, as war drags on, we lose heart and go home.

They count on Barack Obama’s quitting the Iraq/Syria campaign just as he quit Iraq and Libya in 2011 and is in the process of leaving Afghanistan now. And this goes beyond Obama. They see a post-9/11 pattern: America experiences shock and outrage and demands action. Then, seeing no quick resolution, it tires and seeks out leaders who will order the retreat. In Obama, they found the quintessential such leader.

As for the short run, the Islamic State knows it will be pounded from the air. But it deems that price worth paying, given its gains in propaganda and prestige — translated into renown and recruiting — from these public executions.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; foreignpolicy; iraq; isis; islamicstate; islamocommunism; islamofascism; jihad; krauthammer; obama; obamanewisisstrategy; syria; syrianrebels; waronterror; wot

1 posted on 09/19/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a few words of truth & wisdom!!! Obama is with his beloved “Muslim Brotherhood” and their ISIS allies!!! Obama is not for the USA....he is not one of us....he is not an African-American....he is an African-Muslim...period!!!


2 posted on 09/19/2014 7:36:27 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They see a post-9/11 pattern: America experiences shock and outrage and demands action. Then, seeing no quick resolution, it tires and seeks out leaders who will order the retreat. In Obama, they found the quintessential such leader.

Not just a post-9/11 pattern. Vietnam. Mogadishu. Lots of examples.

3 posted on 09/19/2014 7:40:20 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Between the economy, healthcare, the border, islamic wars, etc. this guy has created a hell of an environment for the next president.

What real conservative is going to be willing to take that on and be smeared by the media while doing it?

Nobody. That’s why, once again, we’ll be stuck with Romney, Bush, Christy, etc.


4 posted on 09/19/2014 7:42:14 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ve been at war for 1400 years now. They have much more experience at it than we, and have long term planning skills we oft overlook.


5 posted on 09/19/2014 7:49:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can you imagine any nation or group of people getting on board with any war plan by the USA? Why would anyone risk it ever again? We always leave them hanging in the end as soon as a poll comes out that Americans are weary.


6 posted on 09/19/2014 7:51:01 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Obama is not for the USA....he is not one of us....he is not an African-American....he is an African-Muslim...period!!!

For years I have been saying King Obama is a communists BLACK (as hell) Muslim and for the last 6 months added Traitor.

7 posted on 09/19/2014 7:51:33 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

both of the above

they do not care about “world opinion”

only muslim world opinion

about them defying the US and Britain to stop them

most muslims have been silent about the beheadings, accepting the savagery either openly or silently
these are the same people who accept actively or silently the right of a muslim to kill his.her own daughter for “honor”

and IS finds it to be an effective recruiting tool to attract more psychopaths


8 posted on 09/19/2014 7:57:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama already quit .is ISIS Stupid


9 posted on 09/19/2014 8:23:39 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is to be the counterstrategy? Stay in Iraq forever? If that was how they’d have sold the war years ago nobody’d have been in board, excepting delusional New World Order types.


10 posted on 09/19/2014 8:26:43 AM PDT by House of Burgesses
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To: SeekAndFind

Jihadis are credited as winning by just surviving. The IS can get credit for a victory over the US just by waiting for Obama to get tired and go home.


11 posted on 09/19/2014 8:46:38 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Sultan is not quitting the fight. He is trying to manipulate it so that his side wins. It is politically necessary that he make a show of bombing his own troops even as he arms and trains future recruits to ISIS or whatever successor comes along.


12 posted on 09/19/2014 8:49:54 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Little Ray

The sane action in the light of 1400 years of history is to set off a small yield nuke on the ISIS HQ or on Mosul while they still control it then blame Iran with a carefully laid out presentation at the UN with maps and satellite pictures after which or during which we waste Iran. Then we must colonize ME oil, take it, occupy and fortify the oilfields, and give no recompense to the Moslem countries. So long as Mohammedan countries, tribes, or any sort of groups have resources beyond sufficient to bare subsistence for the general population and opulence for the rulers they will wage war against everyone else. That is what they have done for 1400 years. Habits get hard to shake after more than a millennium.


13 posted on 09/19/2014 8:58:35 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

OBAMA IS A TAQIYYA MUSLIM

Gruesome as they are, these photos are necessary to be shown. We have to awake the world to the Islamic threat.

As Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos, one of the last Christian rulers before the fall of Constantinople to the Muslim Ottoman Empire, in a dialogue with a Persian Muslim scholar, he asked:

Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.[
We better start being clear that we need to defend our faith and our way of life. lest we loose them.

Horrendous photos of ISIS’ barbaric crusade to spread Islam now underway...................

Do not allow children to see these photos.

This is really bad stuff -— please delete quickly if you are at all squeamish! (this is no joke!!!) This is why this vermin must be eradicated completely.

Caution!
These pictures are truly graphic and depict Nazi type brutality. These people are not animals, animals don’t kill for sport.

Subject: Photo Evidence of ISIS’ Crusade to spread Islam now underway...
THIS IS ROUGH STUFF !!

If you cannot handle brutality, please go no further, it is not nice to see, sorry but true !!!!! If this doesn’t get you worked up and want to destroy these animals nothing will. It might just stir up Obama but I doubt that anything will...

These photos show ISIS brutality in action. The photos get worse as you progressed through them. They show the ISIS’ treatment of Christians and other “Infidels” in Iraq and Syria.

The photos were received from a Franciscan priest to show with what we are dealing and to begin to understand what is at hand in order to develop solutions.

AMERICAN BEWARE OF TAQIYYA MUSLIMS!!

“Those who do not learn from History are damned it repeat it” George Santayana

ISLAM, RELIGION OF PEACE

Remember Otranto

http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/how-the-800-martyrs-of-otranto-saved-rome

y Famagusta

http://archive.redstate.com/story/2006/7/25/104316/421

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

Islam is as much a religion of peace and tolerance today as it has been since its foundation by Muhammad in the 8th century.

THE ISLAMIC STATE IN IRAQ and Syria

http://clara-media.gloria.tv/65/mediafile-642419-1-sd.mp4?upstream=bonifacius-media.gloria.tv%2fj&sum=S250A1DCGuKoQbK1CjrPTw&due=1410943479

MUSLIMS Crucifies and behead Christian boys

Gruesome and revolting pictures
https://www.google.com/search?q=isis+beheading+children&rlz=2T4NDKB_enUS0538US0540&biw=1024&bih=515&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=dSccVM7aO6nI8gGq9YHIDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

MUSLIMS MASSACRE CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ahz3BEhkyho

WHO ARE NIGERIA’S BOKO HARAM?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VN_7A3mNKg&feature=player_detailpage

“Those who maintain that understanding jihad as a holy war constitutes a sort of deviation from the true Islamic tradition are therefore not telling the truth, and history sadly demonstrates that violence has characterized Islam since its origin, and that Mohammed himself systematically. We must also recognize the natural right of every society to defend its own cultural, religious, and political identity. It seems to me that this is precisely what Pius V did.”(Christianity and Islam in History by Monsignor Walter Brandmüller, president of the Vatican Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences)

DEPORT ALL TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES


14 posted on 09/19/2014 10:03:39 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: arthurus

I like the idea.
Unfortunately nukes have signatures based on the origins of the radioactive material and the design of the nuke. It is unlikely we could disguise the origin of the weapon.

Also, hanging on to the area would be miserable. I suppose we could create Foreign Legion to do the job...


15 posted on 09/19/2014 10:41:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
They count on Barack Obama’s quitting the Iraq/Syria campaign just as he quit Iraq and Libya in 2011 and is in the process of leaving Afghanistan now. And this goes beyond Obama. They see a post-9/11 pattern: America experiences shock and outrage and demands action. Then, seeing no quick resolution, it tires and seeks out leaders who will order the retreat. In Obama, they found the quintessential such leader.

16 posted on 09/20/2014 1:49:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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