Posted on 09/14/2014 10:11:33 AM PDT by goldstategop
SIMFEROPOL, September 14. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s ruling party United Russia is winning elections to Crimea’s State Council, or legislature, according to exit poll results announced on Sunday after polling stations were closed.
Thus, the results of the exit poll demonstrate that the United Russia is claiming 70.36% of the vote. Apart from the United Russia, two more parties - the Liberal Democratic Party (LDPR) and the Communist Party (CPRF) - are surmounting the five-percent barrier with 9.33 and 6.56% of the vote, respectively.
Candidates from the rest nine political parties, according to the exit polls, are failing to win seats in the Crimean Parliament. Thus, the Rodina party list enrolled the support from 4.41% of voters. The Communists of Russia won two percent of the vote, the A Just Russia party - 1.77%, the Russian Party of Pensioners for Justice - 1.56%, the Patriots of Russia - 1.15%, and the KPSS - 1.03% Other parties won less than one percent.
The exit poll involved 3,600 voters at 110 polling stations in Crimea. As many as 202 of the polled refused to answer questions. The error is within 1.5%
Still, you got to wonder about the invincible ignorance of those who think this is a big win for Putin The Great, President for Life, and KGB Colonel, retired. He pulled off the greatest elections since Saddam won with 99% of the vote.
That's mre than Porkyshenko got in Ukraine isn't it?
Putin will win whatever election he holds. No matter how unpopular he might be.
Facists win, fascists win
they don’t need to bother to actually count the vote
A poll of 3,600 will do
LDPR are the nationalists correct?
In any event, I'm not going to try to convert anybody. My confrontations with them on FR are strictly for the benefit of passersby who might be misled...
Worse still is all the talk about him being a strong leader, as if we're all in favor of unlimited power and Czarism (and the word Tsar does come from Caesar). These are the values of Rome after the Republic ended. Unless one is just naturally attracted to bullies, there is nothing about Putin that a real American, especially a conservative, should embrace.
Does anyone think the election in Crimea was a real election?
We know leftists love bullies and tyrants like Hugo and Fidel, it is sad that some “on our side” have the same problem
Yup.
They did poorly because they have achieved their “Greater Russia” agenda.
And the Communists offered no popular or compelling alternative to Putin.
No, I don’t.
I'm reminded of these lines of Joseph Conrad's THE HEART OF DARKNESS when I think of those who support a Putin or a Castro.
"This visitor informed me Kurtz's proper sphere ought to have been politics `on the popular side.' He had furry straight eyebrows, bristly hair cropped short, an eye-glass on a broad ribbon, and, becoming expansive, confessed his opinion that Kurtz really couldn't write a bit--'but heavens! how that man could talk! He electrified large meetings. He had faith--don't you see?--he had the faith. He could get himself to believe anything--anything. He would have been a splendid leader of an extreme party.' `What party?' I asked. `Any party,' answered the other. `He was an--an--extremist.'"
Human nature doesn’t change. Powerful people who use power to deter their foes get respect.
Leaders who can’t do it are the subject of universal scorn. That’s the way its always been.
People who are too trusting end up being someone else’s dinner.
"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.”
And I think you and bin Laden are correct. For people who have no real values, unlike, say, American conservatives who don't just admire someone only because he's STRONG, there is a type of human who admires brutes and bullies. I suppose in prisons, for example, the bully and the vicious thug are all greatly admired. So, if you're amoral, then, thinking like bin Laden might be a perennial idea that's still worth keeping. Post Jesus Christ and the rise of Judeao/Christian ethics most people stopped admiring a man just because he could inflict pain and suffering on others. This is one reason the Romans hated the Christians and Hitler hated Christianity, too (granted not as much as he hated the Jews). He hated the Christians who truly believe in God's teachings because they were unwilling to admire sheer brutality for its own sake.
There are those who believe fear is the shortest way to reputation and fame.
I am not one of them. But Joseph Conrad and Bin Laden make the same point: playing by the rules is for losers.
And power attracts certain kinds of people who think the rules don’t apply to them.
Joseph Conrad did not admire Kurtz, his character in the book. And if you’re saying you admire bin Laden for breaking rules, well, I guess you couldn’t make my case about your comments any better than that.
I didn’t say that.
I did say that in politics you’re going to wind up with strongmen.
In free societies, politicians fall far short of the ideal also.
And you don’t admire Putin or you do?
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