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dea restricts narcotic pain drug prescriptions
imarketreports.com ^ | 08/21/2014 | Louise Radnofsky And Joseph Walker

Posted on 09/05/2014 11:54:52 PM PDT by Vendome

Obama administration moved Thursday to restrict prescriptions of the most commonly used narcotic painkillers in the U.S. in an attempt to curb widespread abuse.

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To: Vendome

This is an impossible problem to solve.

Most scam artists are very good at what they do. A ten minute appointment, with eight of the minutes managing the EMR, cannot detect fraud.

Any crackdown will take meds away from people who need them.


41 posted on 09/06/2014 6:12:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: buffyt

Can I ask what specific medicine youhwere prescribed and the dosage?

Folks do get addicted to oxycontin and quite a few, when they cannot get more, they go for heroin. There have been quite a few articles written about it, one on cnn.com recently.


42 posted on 09/06/2014 6:15:14 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Vendome

Just more anti-technology ludditism from OTrauma.


43 posted on 09/06/2014 6:17:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Jim Noble
Any crackdown will take meds away from people who need them

That's the point.

44 posted on 09/06/2014 6:17:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The pain management place will eventually help you, but for CYA purposes, they need a paper trail showing where they tried ‘everything else’ first, and they probably try to earn $$$$$ from newer patients by ‘trying’ to fix you with with some sort of procedure, like injections. This also weeds out the ‘drug seekers’, which they probably encounter daily.

When they DO eventually give you what works, anticipate random drug screenings and a monthly ‘bottle inspection’ every time you go. (you are literally treated like something just barely above a potential criminal)

I’ve known a couple of people that’s been through it.


45 posted on 09/06/2014 6:22:51 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: USNBandit
I didn't have a problem with getting off the pain mess, but I have sympathy for those that do.

Been there, and done that. I grew up in junkyards, garages, and machine shops doing salvage and repair work on heavy equipment. I think I have more scar tissue in my hands than a lot of people have in their whole body.

Your body will tell you when it's starting to get used to having it, you just have to learn to listen.

46 posted on 09/06/2014 6:34:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Vendome

They should just legalize and tax them. Just look at the great results for pot.

This crap drives me nuts. Addicts will be addicts. Better to allow doctors to manage their intake IMHO. Too many folks are not given the meds they need—especially when they have cancer and other terminal or chronic illnesses and injuries.

Makes me sick—these non-elected agenda-driven bastards making all our lives miserable. I can’t even buy a decent allergy meds these days without being assumed a criminal. When did Americans surrender their rights to these petty bureaucrats?


47 posted on 09/06/2014 6:39:43 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: Vendome

It’ll be easier, cheaper, and much more convenient to get heroin on the street corner to manage pain than to get an appointment and a prescription.

That’s exactly what (some) people will do. Who can blame them?


48 posted on 09/06/2014 6:41:17 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Straight Vermonter; buffyt
I can’t tell if you are trolling or if you actually believe that.

I don't think they're "trolling" at all. Their experience pretty much mirrors mine. I've had 4 major lower back surgeries, after each of which I was prescribed hydrocodone (sp?) in pretty high doses to help with the pain after the surgery.

The only thing hydrocodone did for me was barely take the edge off the pain post surgery, and I had zero "withdrawl" effects after taking them for several weeks after surgery.

People all react differently to medications.

49 posted on 09/06/2014 6:44:36 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: buffyt
They are NOT at all addictive.

I take Vicodin for my back, which is in about as good a shape as your husbands. (herniated discs pressing on sciatic nerve)

They are addictive in that your body definitely feels weird and shaky if you just stop taking them or if you go several hours past your normal dose time. Doctors don't call it "addicted" they say you're "dependent" on them.

Also, the only time Vicodin will make you feel euphoric or happy is when there is no pain for the narcotic to fight against. We don't feel that way because we are in pain and the drug doesn't react in that way with us.

I will add that one doctor put me on Oxycontin and I felt horrible! I got off that crap quick! I never understood the draw for that drug.

Bottom line, the druggies ruin everything for the rest of us!(although, I always see my doctor once a month so this doesn't affect me) Can't even get a decent cold remedy anymore!

50 posted on 09/06/2014 6:48:24 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where guns and God have not been outlawed! Molon Labe)
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To: Vendome
Ok, so this is clearly nanny-statism at work, the government interjecting itself directly into the doctor-patient relationship.

However, from reading the article it seems that the restriction isn't on whether the drugs can be prescribed, but on how long they can be prescribed for before the doctor needs to write a new prescription.

The current restriction limits prescriptions to 180-days duration. This would reduce that to 90 days. From the article:

The “rescheduling” means people will be able to receive the drugs for only up to 90 days without obtaining a new prescription.

So again, more restrictive and definitely an issue from a size/scope/role of government perspective, but the drugs aren't actually being banned.
51 posted on 09/06/2014 6:53:46 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: buffyt

“They are NOT at all addictive.”

You have to understand that addiction varies by person. I cannot take any opiate painkiller - they make me feel terrible - worse than the pain they were prescribed for (for the few times I had cause for a prescription for them).

Some people get almost immediately addicted.

Some people never get addicted.

Opiates are a miracle for some people in intense pain. Watching loved ones dying of cancer - it reduced the agony substantially.

That said - there is a street market for these things. There are a LOT of people who pill-seek from doctors.

I think that trying to limit pill-seekers by forcing others to live in agonizing pain is a pretty sick policy.

This is the world we live in though. Our government coddles the addicts and throttles those truly in pain.

That’s the stark reality. If it were me that needed them, I’d try to figure out how to gauge a therapeutic dose out of street drugs - perhaps learn how to grow poppies myself - so I could control what goes into it.

You have no idea how effective or addictive these pills are to someone else - just by using your own experience.


52 posted on 09/06/2014 7:14:10 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Vendome
Meanwhile, the streets are loaded, and I mean loaded, with more drugs than ever. Heroin use and addiction, is epidemic. Kids are taking Molly, MDMA counterfeits coming in from China with severely toxic chemicals which is then cut further by dealers with crystal meth, rat poison, etc.

There is then massive amounts of crystal meth, bath salts, krokodile, crack, cocaine and various other synthetic drugs which go by names I can not recall but these asshats are worried about this?

Not even mentioning the countless numbers of people out there walking around, legally, on SSRIs and other various brain chemical altering drugs.

53 posted on 09/06/2014 7:35:36 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: buffyt
THIS IS BS! I have taken them too, when I hurt my back. They are NOT at all addictive. They barely even ease the pain! We have never found them to be addictive at all. There is no euphoric or stoned feeling to them.

I have a bad disk and two bad knees and have had prescriptions for mild pain killers. I then had one knee replaced a few months ago and had some really strong pain meds that I used for about six weeks. They worked really well for my post surgical pain.

I was really worried about getting hooked on them but both my Primary Care Physician and my Orthopedic Surgeon told me that the majority component in addiction was personality type and that I did not have the personality traits of an addictive person. It was not hard at all to stop taking those pain killers and I healed so fast I was using nothing after six weeks.

I do have to admit they made my short term memory terrible and I am glad I do not have to use them. I have to have my other knee replaced very soon and I do hope I can get those pain killers again for those first few weeks. Without them it will be impossible to get the rest I need to heal properly.

54 posted on 09/06/2014 8:21:17 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: CorporateStepsister

I have a 12 level spinal fusion. Do you have any idea how deep they actually cut to get there? I use numbing cream for many things, but there’s not a powerful enough cream to deal with spinal nerve pain.


55 posted on 09/06/2014 8:39:42 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: fatnotlazy

I had the freaking surgery. I had a 12-level spinal fusion. Yup. It’s text-book perfect (according to the x-rays) but I’ll be in crippling pain for the rest of my life.

Some things can’t be fixed. Sometimes people break beyond repair.


56 posted on 09/06/2014 8:41:12 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: driftdiver

I take hydrocodone for pain and I’ll admit that I am physically dependent. (Took me years to get to the point, but I know that I’ll suffer withdrawals if I suddenly stop. I’ve never been ‘high’ off of it, though.)

But what’s worse? Needing it not to have withdrawals, or being crippled by pain? It’s like the insomniac who refuses to take sleeping pills. You already can’t sleep, buddy. And you’re worried about not being able to sleep without it? May as well get some rest.

I may as well take the damn pain pill and have a life than be curled up in a ball wishing for death.


57 posted on 09/06/2014 8:46:15 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: RFEngineer

I’ve finally hit the point where I’m ready to try medical marijuana. Never have done pot. Never did drugs. I’d be content to use prescribed, monitored hydrocodone for the rest of my life. But I’m sick of being treated like a criminal because I am hurt. I’m sick of bureaucrats threatening to hurt me every time an idiot abuses *my* medication.

And that’s exactly what they’re threatening to do. To actually, physically HURT me. This isn’t messing with my toilet flush or taking away my decent light bulbs. This will physically cause me pain.

I am so ashamed that I was once a ‘drug warrior’. I am paying the price for my lack of compassion now. I am so sorry for the years that I bought into the BS and supported politicians who wanted control. I never could comprehend how bad chronic pain can be until I suffered it for myself. I was an idiot and inhumane and unthinking.

I helped cause this problem. And I deeply regret it.


58 posted on 09/06/2014 8:54:32 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Marie
I'm so sorry. I was just concerned that buffyt hadn't explored alternatives other than painkillers.
59 posted on 09/06/2014 9:02:08 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: buffyt

I agree. Imho, most people do not become addicted to anything. Those who do can easily be identified and helped. To deny someone in agony pain relief because someone else has an addiction issue is cruel.


60 posted on 09/06/2014 9:08:51 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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