I suspect there's a wide range of behavior being lumped in here as catcalling. On the mild end it's possibly harmless and even fun. On the extreme end described, it sounds like criminal assault and menacing.
Is this flattery or her art imitating life?
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What would a feminist know about catcalling?
Ugly hags WISH they were catcalled.
“One day, as my female schoolmate and I rode New York City’s F train home...”
Move away from New York. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone getting ‘catcalls’ while in Arizona, Utah or Idaho.
Must happen when other guys are not around. I’ve not seen such behavior before (except for by certain demographics known for harrassing everyone).
I would rank this issue first on my list of issues that gets me worried about the future of America. /s
Flattery? I thought catcalling (other than "here, kitty, kitty, kitty!) meant booing, Bronx-cheering, etc. to express disapproval.
Maybe I'm just old school.
It’s one thing to take in an eye full, and maybe have a little longer look if she’s particularly attractive. And it’s another thing altogether to actually say something impolite.
And therein is the the issue, the boundaries of impolite.
I appreciate the idea that a woman should be able to wear whatever she wants, but at some point the provocative clothing, provokes. Otherwise, what’s the point?
Case in point ...Yoga pants. Why would you wear them, except to show off your wares.
There is a certain line of behavior for some men who seem to wish to be as disgusting as possible.
Girls.... you’re going to have to deal with it. Men are hound dogs, always have been. Always will be.
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FWIW, I’ve never treated a woman this way in my life, and if the accounts are true, which I’ve no reason to believe they aren’t, I find it pretty appalling.
The behavior described is beyond disgusting and crosses into assault.
Depending on the age of the lady (not obviously underage/teen) a whistle or maybe a non threatening remark (i.e., “where have you been all my life”) is alright. Vulgarity and predatory behavior isn’t.
Let’s celebrate diversity. We’ll just call them piropos! (Look them up if you don’t know what those are).
Most of what she describes goes way beyond what most people would consider to be “cat calling”.
The males she describes are animals the like of which I have never seen. Someone OPENLY ogling a passing 13 yr old in a bar full of men AND in front of her father?!? Bull! Were these males of any particular race?
Encounter a few hundred random men in the street and at least one is going to hit on you. Always.
I also guarantee a great deal of the harassment would be seen as welcome flirting if it came from an attractive man. If the guy is unattractive, he is automatically labeled a “creeper” before he even opens his mouth.
I believe that all of the male posters on FR have never treated a woman like this (and us ladies thank you all for being gentlemen).
I agree that she lumps a lot in with catcalling and much of what she cites could be considered assaults and menacing.
Some years ago I worked in downtown Denver and walked to lunch at various places, to and from the bus stop, etc. and would also run errands in the burbs on weekends. There was quite a bit of construction going on here and there. The 1st time construction workers whistled at me, I was a little embarrassed (I was fairly shy). I saw an article or a passage in a book (don’t recall which right now) that said “scorn not the street compliment”. It was talking about whistles or complimentary yells (usually by construction workers). I started looking at being whistled at a bit differently and turned around and told a few of them “thank you” - - they weren’t expecting that and the looks on some of their faces was priceless.
When I was in my 20s and 30s, I had guys turn around and look or chat me up in line at the grocery store (not trying to sound proud or that I looked like a movie star). But, thankfully, I’ve not had the experiences she’s had and can only recall one time when a guy was totally disrespectful - I was on a crowded bus and had to stand. A guy standing next to me grabbed my behind - I was wearing high heels and stomped the heel of my shoe down on the top of his foot. He got a very painful look on his face and squeezed his way to another part of the bus.
I know there have been societal changes over the years (songs with “Ho”, etc.) and that there are creeps and stalkers out there, but it’s been my experience that if one dresses and acts like a lady and expects to be treated like one, she usually will be - -maybe I’ve just been lucky.