Posted on 08/29/2014 6:16:53 AM PDT by safetysign
Charles C. Johnson, the Editor-in-Chief of Got News and the investigator who debunked the Everytown shootings map, is suing the St. Louis County Court to release Ferguson shooting victim Michael Brown’s juvenile arrest records. As relayed by the website YoungCons.com, Johnson claims that he has “confirmed” Michael Brown was arrested in a case involving second-degree murder: record Johnson earlier reported on Twitter that he had two contacts in the St. Louis Police Department tell him that Michael Brown had a juvenile criminal record, thus prompting the lawsuit: record2 The reporter has been challenged on his rationale for seeking the juvenile records of Brown, and this is his response today: lawyers As reported by Ryan Gorman of AOL News, the citizen journalist wants the alleged arrest records released to the public: “To find out if those police officers are correct requires seeing Brown’s juvenile arrest record, which ought to be freely available given that he is dead and therefore has no right to privacy remaining,” insists Johnson.
“Knowing the truth about Brown’s past will help us gauge the credibility of his parents and family who have called him a ‘gentle giant.’”
Attorney Johnathon Burns, who is arguing the case, told KMOX that since the teen is deceased, his records are no longer sealed. The lawsuit follows below, via SCRIBD: Lawsuit to Release Michael Brown Juvenile Record
The lack of transparency involving the Michael Brown shooting was a major factor in the conflagration in Ferguson. After the initial reports of the Ferguson shooting arose, numerous major news media outlets jumped on the story to frame it as a racially prejudiced police officer shooting an unarmed “gentle giant” when he either had his hands up or was running away. When video surveillance photos of Michael Brown surfaced, the media questioned the police’s release of the information, which the Holder Justice Department wanted withheld from the public. The story of the strong-arm robbery accomplice Dorian Johnson that Brown was running away appears to be falsified with an initial autopsy failing to show gunshots in the back of Michael Brown. The police deparment’s version of the story, as well as that of Wilson’s friend, and an unidentified witness commenting on the case, appear to corroborate the story that Brown continued to come at the officer after being initially fired at. The background evidence of the strong-arm robbery and any prior criminal incidents speak to the potential state of mind of Michael Brown during the fatal confrontation. In any event, since the Ferguson rioting, the matter of Michael Brown’s death and how it occurred is a matter of public interest. The facts of the case must be divulged to the public, and that is the only way the second-guessing and the speculation will end. CBS News reported a hearing for the lawsuit is scheduled for September 3rd.
He was involved in it. He was there. His actions throughout the day contributed at least in part to the guys death. I’m looking at a case with nearly exactly the same circumstances. Kid got 90 years.
And he raped her and killed her and built a cage with her bones.
I worked in the criminal records “department” of the US DoJ, and the rule on releasing information in regards to invading someone’s privacy was quite simple; DEAD MEN DON’T HAVE RIGHTS. We had to be very careful about releasing info, but once the subject was deceased, there were NO restrictions.
I agree with your point. I still don’t think it changes minds. It’s an admirable goal to try. I support trying.
I’d be very interested in a ping when you post on that, please.
Johnson was not, by any account I’ve seen, involved in the alleged assault on Wilson. He may have been involved in the robbery, but the shooting did not occur during the robbery or in the immediate flight therefrom. “He was there” doesn’t satisfy the felony murder rule, nor do “his actions throughout the day.”
2nd degree murder on record, that’s a good thing on his resume, seeing he was a budding rapper. Why do they insist on canonizing these thugs is beyond comprehension.
complaint is at the link
I don’t agree with all of this below but interesting read and more info..
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/30/potentially-explosive-on-scene-evidence-shows-mike-brown-accomplice-dorian-johnson-was-part-of-physical-assault-against-darren-wilson/
And that will be the only way we'll ever find out about the unarmed gentle giant's past. You know this lawsuit for his juvie record will be fought and delayed and fought some more for years so they won't have to release it until long after he's forgotten.
Did you read the rule on privacy and death regarding Black Thug Messiahs? Like Trayvon and Big Mike.
Yes, for normal people I’m sure the info could be made public. But for The Community’s Messiahs (Tray, Mike even the Pres), well.....different set of rules and we all know it too.
Why do you think Brown and Johnson were not in “immediate flight”?
They were stopped by Officer Wilson literally less than ten minutes after the robbery, they were carrying the stolen goods at the time he stopped them, and it appears likely they had not stopped anywhere in the meantime but had proceeded on foot directly from the scene of the robbery to where Officer Wilson stopped them.
In my jurisdiction we could not charge Johnson with Brown’s death because our felony murder rule is interpreted so as not to include the death of a co-felon (but we can charge a felon with the death of a bystander or a cop).
Even in jurisdictions that allow a felon to be charged with the death of a co-felon sometimes there is an exception in the case of a co-felon killed by a cop. I have no idea how the rule is interpreted in Missouri.
The video reveal he was a thug. Yet the media including Obama and Holder are trying to turn him into a saint.
I just don’t think that walking leisurely down the middle of the street would be held as “immediate flight” from a felony. Like I said before, it’s debatable that the theft of the cigars was even a felony robbery in the first place. The Missouri Statutes only state that “a death of another person” can qualify as felony murder. However, I don’t know off the top of my head whether or not that includes co-felons. I’m also replying from a restaurant on my phone, so I don’t have any of my legal research stuff at my disposal.
Personally just my humble opinion, I dont think the fellow Dorian will be charged with zip, or even threatened to be charged with zip, for fear of backlash from the all black community. Just dont see it happening, I think they are running scared.
I heard it was considered a “strong armed robbery” and very serious. Speaking of Big Mike had he survived, I heard on a lib network that hje could have been looking at 5 years and yes a felony.
Not saying that you are calling the cigar theft nothing, but I believe there are people in for 20 years for stealing a bag of chips if it happens to be in a state with 3 strikes and you are out laws.
He used physical threat/force over the guy, came back at him.
Oh, I wouldn’t say the cigar theft was nothing, and he may very well been charged with a felony. My main point here is the involvement of Johnson. I just don’t believe that when they were walking down the street that they would be considered in “immediate flight” from the crime. I just don’t see this case being stretched to felony murder on Johnson for what transpired. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m basing everything off of how I think the law would be interpreted and trying to keep my personal beliefs out of it.
He was with him through the entire crime spree, an accomplice (of course provided it was found to be a crime spree).
The robbery was the start of the event. The death of the kid was the end of it. The guy was with him throughout. He was an accessory.
I understand there is a case to be made that there is a separation but I don’t see it that way. My view is based on nearly exactly the same circumstance in another case and a kid serving 90 years.
Do you have a cite/link to the other case?
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