Posted on 08/21/2014 10:11:16 AM PDT by the scotsman
'A senior British Muslim called on Thursday for action to tackle a jihadi sub-culture after an Islamic State video showed a suspected Briton beheading U.S. journalist James Foley held hostage in Syria.
In Britain, the video caused particular shock as it featured the as yet unidentified man apparently speaking with a southeastern English accent, although the sizeable numbers of young British Muslims fighting with the militants in Iraq and Syria have created concern for some time.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie, an adviser to the Muslim Council of Britain, said Britons from across the country's communities had to stop young men being seduced by radical ideologies.
"This sub culture of this 'jihadi-cool' - as they call it in the media - within the margins of society ..., that is the real challenge," he told BBC Radio. "This is a problem that affects all of us and it will only be dealt with more effectively if all of us are working together on this."
Sacranie said the Muslim community was pushing the message that "this is totally alien to Islam" and families were reporting to the authorities when they discovered their sons had headed to the Middle East to fight.
British officials have also expressed concern that the young men will return home to plan attacks there.'
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Unless he is lying to deflect, I say thank you. It might have taken 13 years, but we have been clamoring for “peaceful” muslims to speak out.
If he is sincere, I won’t feel the need to remind him that experience has taught us Islam is not a ROP.
If he is lying or if this is for nothing more than show, may he rot in hell.
I stand corrected.
Nice to see he finally pulled his head out of his @$$. Better late than never, I guess.
No. they can pass a law making terrorists persona non gratis. As thinga stand now they have to take them back. It needn’t stay that way.
We don’t see it said aloud but i’m sure i’m not the only one thinking it. THerse people are as ruthless and barbaric as Nazis. The world stood by and watched too long. I think when the tally of dead from the actions of these barbarians is totaled up history will judge the world stood and watched too long once more.
British officials should visit South Hall, East London and Slough.
An actual moderate Muslim ...what’s next Bigfoot seen swimming with the Loch Ness monster? It’s about time but a little late. Where was this guy on Sept 12, 2001??
Go ahead your imamitude, coral the beasts who worship your silly stone moon-god. Don’t act like the responsibility for bringing islam to civilization rests with us. It’s your nut to crack.
Not so much, by joining a foreign military and taking up arms against the UK they have effectively taken an affirmative action to renounce their citizenship.
Under UK and American law the government can not strip you of your citizenship but you can loose it through your own actions.
Lee Rigby was unavailable for comment.
“Sacranie said the Muslim community was pushing the message that “this is totally alien to Islam”...”
Good luck with that b
Could the people there have done anything?.
Maybe. But what. Two crazed men with cleavers, a gun. Rigby was attacked and killed quickly, they attacked men who tried to intervene.
The British people don’t walk around with guns, even those of us who own them. We have little CC in the UK. And even then that’s a small amount of CC in Northern Ireland and a tiny amount on the mainland.
The criticism from the US seems to us to be perfect hindsight. Allied to a bit of BS bravado. Remember the US has its own history of people killed whilst others did nothing.
I understand and share your passion but you can't just declare someone PNG by virtue of a voice analysis of a video.
“British imams say Isis ‘is not what Muslims stand for”
Then isn’t the Imam obligated to hop on his camel and go slaughter these guys?
I’m not buying it.
Any individual , and his entire family , should lose all rights to citizenship , be immediately deported , without appeal , en masse , and have all their properties permanently seized ; If found to be traveling abroad to join jihad .
Not only the jihadi terrorist , but his/her entire family should suffer these immediate repercussions.
Make it law , make it stick . Raise the ante for the families that spawn these monsters . They all must be made to pay .
Sure if they are in custody they will have a hearing to determine if they effectively renounced their citizenship.
If they are not in custody and sufficient evidence exists the hearing can take place in abstencia.
Again its their actions that strip them of their citizenship not the governments. Its the same if an American citizen naturalizes in Briton or France their American citizenship becomes null and void with out the US government doing anything.
Why doesn’t someone confront these types with a Koran, point out the passages that DEMAND killing of non-Muslims and every other atrocity Islam stands for, and ask them to explain it? Better yet, ask them to RIP OUT the pages that are ‘alien to Islam’. They won’t dare- they believe every word. ISIS IS ISLAM-pure,honest, deadly Islam!
Its a field of battle. No due process out there.
As to the PNG if they find out who they are they can try them in absentia which is probably the wisesty thing to do. Then there’s no circus atmosphere to deal with. If guilty then strip them of their citizenship.
If someone volunteers to fight for a terrorist group, they have in fact renounced their loyalty to and citizenship in the country they have left. They are now and forever will be enemy combatants. They should not be allowed come back but be required to stay in the country/area they have chosen to align themselves with.
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