Posted on 08/16/2014 7:34:51 AM PDT by McGruff
If Russia and Ukraine slide into outright war, the United States and allies will face tough choices on how to support a friendly state they have no intention of making a full NATO member.
If Moscow ever took any such action against a NATO member, that would inevitably trigger the alliance's Chapter 5 mutual defense clause, essentially committing it to war. Ukraine, however, is not a member and Western officials say is unlikely to become one any time soon.
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If Russia invades Ukraine in full force I’m afraid that will unlock NATO and Russia will go down to defeat.
If Russia invades Ukraine in full force I’m afraid that will unlock NATO and Russia will go down to defeat.
I thought there was already a defense pact, the Budapest Memorandum, signed by Mr. Rodham-Clinton.
Russia is not going to go down without America getting wet
What choice? If they fight, obama tees off at 7:00am. If they don’t, tee time is 6:30am. There, problem solved.
A phyric victory for the irradiated survivors.
If Russia and Ukraine slide into outright war mac daddy will not know about it until he reads about it in the news paper and then will go on vacation.
At some point we must take a stand against Russia our number one enemy.
Ukraine is fighting for it’s independence as we once did, we cannot ignore that.
It’s a sticky situation but they wouldn’t fight if we were already there in force.
Weasley Clark is a bum. A butt kissing Klinton fan.
Wrong. NATO ain’t gonna do nothing. It takes the USA to make NATO a force and our golf playing Sunni Muslin president is not going to do anything that interferes with the golf game.
Obama defies our warning. So we should provide arms assistance to Ukes, and advisers on contract.
We ignore everything else. Obozo will play golf and play like the world is quiet.
It was tragic, the way we nuked Russia for supplying North Vietnam during the Vietnam War, and flying Migs against our flyboys. And fully predictable, when the Russians nuked us for supplying the mujahideen during the Afghan-Soviet War.
You can get wet without nukes
Easy answer. Zero will choose whatever alternative is most detrimental to the US.
Our M.O. is to park a carrier off the coast and bomb missile and artillery sites. Low risk. How many missile sites get hit before Russia tries to sink a carrier? No one we’ve faced in the last, 60 years could make a credible threat against a carrier. Sink one of those and more guys “get wet” (as in sink or swim) than we lost in the 13 years following 9/11. Not low risk. How many Americans can find Ukraine on a map? What was the last think you bought that was Made in Ukraine (mine was beer I didn’t like). In Korea and Vietnam we sent guys to die to free our friends. Most other times it has taken some action against the US to get the people behind and a war. I don’t know if we as a county (whoever is President) to put the requisite skin in this game. Not saying that,it was Regan or Kennedy, or Nixon or Johnson, or Eisenhower or Truman, that it would have come this far.
Ukraine, or at least its present government is pro-American. That disqualifies it from sympathy or effective aid from the US.
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