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To: Swordmaker
Gleaning location data of any singular individual from aggregated data of millions of data streams, again without identifiers, is NOT POSSIBLE.

I don't have the time to educate a fool. But just for fun I will address this idiotic comment.

All they have to do is to possess your phone number and call your stupid phone. The tower pings will do the rest. Not that I want to insult the phone by calling it stupid, as it is usually the operator who is.

44 posted on 08/18/2014 5:39:46 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

That’s of course making a rash assumption that you don’t have your fine GPS turned on to run all the silly apps, some of which come loaded on the phone pre-installed and activated.

All for your own good .....certainly..


45 posted on 08/18/2014 5:47:50 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat; GeronL
All they have to do is to possess your phone number and call your stupid phone. The tower pings will do the rest. Not that I want to insult the phone by calling it stupid, as it is usually the operator who is.

That is the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time. Do you even have a clue what "aggregate data" is? Apparently not, and you call ME a "fool"???? Always with the name calling.

On the contrary, let ME educate YOU, since you have AGAIN demonstrated in an as insulting manner as possible.

An identifier IS a freaking PHONE NUMBER, or an IMEI, or an ICCID, it is ANYTHING at all, that identifies the phone or the sender. I told you that has been proved to be NOT INCLUDED with any location data being sent by the iPhone. They cannot reverse find it by calling your phone because the IDENTIFIER IS SIMPLY NOT ATTACHED!!! If it is not sent, it's not sent. Those searching would have to be sitting AT the right cell tower AT the right microsecond that particular cell phone just happened to connect to that cell tower to intercept the data from that number and IMEI and ICCID.

If you have someone's phone number, yes, you can call it and find the closest tower. . . or use the IMEI or ICCID number and find where it's located if its got a GPS. . . or if no GPS, the closest three towers it's using and then triangulate. That's possible with any cellular phone these days with location services turned on. On an iPhone, you can turn off location services.

I'm shouting because you seem deaf to actual facts preferring your version of reality. . . and you live in FANTASYLAND. . . and when anyone refuses to join you on your big-eared, up-and-down, Dumbo ride, you call them names.

46 posted on 08/18/2014 6:46:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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