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The Limits of Variability (Gregor Mendel)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Aug. 2014 | John D. Morris, Ph.D.

Posted on 08/12/2014 9:45:32 AM PDT by fishtank

The Limits of Variability

by John D. Morris, Ph.D. *

One of the “heroes” of evolutionists is Gregor Mendel, a European monk who experimented with plant breeding in the latter half of the 1800s. While his contemporary Charles Darwin specifically tried to replace belief in creation, Mendel claimed he was trying to understand God’s creation. Evolutionists like to quote Mendel’s findings as proof for their beliefs, but in reality he demonstrated the strict limitations of biological change.

Mendel was a good experimentalist, working with plants in his monastery’s garden. He bred varieties of garden peas to enhance certain features and noticed that while there was variability in plants, there was a clear limit to that variability. The plants could be bred in one direction but there was a limit to how far they could go. He saw no evidence of evolution; indeed, he observed the opposite of evolutionary change. A plant with one color blossom might be encouraged to produce a plant with another color blossom, but the basic plant remained the same. Mendel’s efforts established the laws of genetics but uncovered no evidence for evolution.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; mendel

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1 posted on 08/12/2014 9:45:32 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

” While his contemporary Charles Darwin specifically tried to replace belief in creation,”

Darwin stated that our creation was insolvable. He didn’t deny God, he separated God from science just as all scientists must do.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 9:53:03 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: fishtank

Mendel actually disproved much of what Darwin originally said.

Darwin was influenced by Lamarck who said that environmental factors cause genetic alterations and evolution. This was behind much of what Darwin theorized.

Lamarck was proved to be wrong and evolutionists then claimed genetic mutations caused evolution.


3 posted on 08/12/2014 9:59:17 AM PDT by detective
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To: fishtank

All of the relevant practical breakthroughs in medicine and genetics have been done by Baraminologists, not by Darwinists. It’s why we’ve been able to cure many forms of cancer in rats for a long time, yet haven’t managed to do so in humans.

We all know that the Darwinists care more about their political and philosophical posturing than they do about practical science, however. While Creationists such as Dr. Ben Carson are busy saving lives, Darwinists are busy telling humanity that we’re savage pond scum who can only be tamed by Big Government.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 10:01:39 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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5 posted on 08/12/2014 10:04:32 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: detective

Good points, thanks!


6 posted on 08/12/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Your FR page is quite excellent.

Recommended reading for Freepers.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 11:06:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank
There is variability among sea snails and variability among roses, but they each are separate and distinct kinds. There is absolutely no evidence that a coral will evolve or ever did evolve into a sea snail. Each basic type remains that basic type.

Serendipitous you should post this, I was just thinking about it this morning.

Let's make a linguistic analogy, since we have better real-time evidence of how languages change than species.

Latin was a widespread language 2000 years ago. Now it may have had a few different dialects across the wide reach of the Empire, but it was essentially the same language. The same "type" if you like.

Fast forward to 2014. Latin has become at least half a dozen different languages, including Italian Spanish and French.

So what happened? Did like beget nonlike? Did the basic type become a different type?

No. Latin simply changed rather imperceptibly across several different lines, and the cumulative effect of those small changes was to produce various languages that--while obviously stemming from a common root--differ so greatly from each other that they are best considered different languages. This is NOT stasis. This is change, but a change that--as the title implies--is one of limited variability moving in a certain direction.

I cannot think of any evolutionary model that would allow a mollusk (sea snail) to turn into a Cnidarian (coral). But that doesn't mean that they can't share a common ancestor.

What ICR is doing here with their sea snail to coral analogy is the equivalent of saying that since Latin can't turn into German, Latin can't turn into Italian either. And that's hogwash.

The evolutionary model does NOT require organisms to jump from one type to another. It rather assumes that one type can produce a range of daughter types that then produce their own daughter types, etc. And in fact the way scientists determine what evolved from what is to show that the ancestor had the characteristics of BOTH types which then, in various proportions, got divided up and suppressed or exaggerated as required.

8 posted on 08/12/2014 11:10:11 AM PDT by Claud
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To: fishtank

You mean we can’t really breed an Audrey Jr?


9 posted on 08/12/2014 11:26:19 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Claud

The language change is not analogous to organism change.

There is far more freedom in changing a language than in an organism.

One can change a language by 180 degrees and it wouldn’t affect functionality - try the same with an organism and you get extinction of the creatures.

By the way, the old classification system was based on morphology - new efforts to base them on DNA and shared biochemistries are yielding many surprises that ICR, CMI, and Discovery are actively investigating.


10 posted on 08/12/2014 4:53:46 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Thank you, FRiend!


11 posted on 08/12/2014 10:22:36 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: fishtank

Not completely analogous but there are many similarities. And a language cannot change 180 degrees without impacting intelligibility—that is why they conserve their basic structure over thousands of years.

Shared biochemistries and DNA eh? Why are there shared *anything* if the forms didn’t come from one another but were specially created?


12 posted on 08/15/2014 5:51:25 AM PDT by Claud
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To: fishtank

PING


13 posted on 08/22/2014 9:45:05 AM PDT by celmak
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