Posted on 08/09/2014 7:57:01 AM PDT by markomalley
Turkey's defense minister on Saturday ruled out a Turkish military intervention against Islamic State fighters in Iraq, and said his country was not involved in U.S. airstrikes against the extremists near the Kurdish regional capital of Irbil.
Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz told reporters central Anatolian province of Sivas that his country had not provided "any support to the U.S. so far." He cited Turkey's responsibility toward 49 Turkish citizens taken hostage by the IS from the Turkish consulate in Mosul in June. The hostages include diplomatic staff, special forces police and children.
Due to this, Yilmaz said, "it is impossible for us to do anything different."
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“Turkey, particularly under the rule of the AKP, is in full agreement with the aims of the caliphate. “
Isis could not have gotten this far without at least tacit support from Turkey. But they have reached a tipping point where they may become a Frankenstein to the Turks. You see, Turkey’s western style government does not comply with Isis’ ideals even if their religions agree. Real Islam is religion and government all in one. The thing we call government is not allowed in the Islamic model. It’s just Imams and their followers, more a tribal model than a governmental model. So, Turkey is in as much danger from Isis as anybody else.
You appear to be correct in your assessment of our former ally, Turkey:
““Turkey, particularly under the rule of the AKP, is in full agreement with the aims of the caliphate. “
“Isis could not have gotten this far without at least tacit support from Turkey. But they have reached a tipping point where they may become a Frankenstein to the Turks. You see, Turkey’s western style government does not comply with Isis’ ideals even if their religions agree. Real Islam is religion and government all in one. The thing we call government is not allowed in the Islamic model. It’s just Imams and their followers, more a tribal model than a governmental model. So, Turkey is in as much danger from Isis as anybody else.”
Turkey’s playing a dangerous game. They’re on the Caliphate’s list.
Why couldn’t Obama get the regional powers together to deal with IS, so we have a multinational force
And what makes you think Turkish leadership wants to keep it's "western style government"? Turkey has been trending Islamic for some time now. Turkey has been Islamic for 1200 years. Western for maybe 60 years.
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“If you want your Western style of gubermint, you can keep your Western style of gubermint.”
He couldn't do that, people might compare him to George Bush! And no way does mr. mulato want to be seen in the same light as Bush.
“And what makes you think Turkish leadership wants to keep it’s “western style government”?”
Certainly the people who have gained power within the framework of the government will want to keep it. The alternative is to enter the very competitive Imam market and gain followers. The Imam with the most followers speaks for the “country” or in this case, the Caliphate. In theory there will be a Caliph, which will be like an emperor or king. But that position will trade off between assassins on a regular basis until one gets powerful enough to kill all the rivals. The Muslim ideal of governance is inherently unstable.
The ordinary people only want Isis or a Caliphate if they have rocks in their heads. (In which case, the black-clad fighters will chop their heads off and shake them until the rocks fall out. But it has been my experience that “the people” don’t know what they want until they get what they wanted last time and decided they don’t like it. By which time it’s too late.)
So Obama is going it alone, unilaterally, without allies, like a warmonger, cowboy. Doesn’t he care about the civilians he might kill from the bomb, after all, he just criticized Israel for doing exactly what he is doing
If you were one of those countries, would you want to 'work' with a known liar ?
And I am all alone.
There is no one here beside me.
And my problems have all gone.
There is no one to deride me.
But you got to have friends.
The feeling’s oh so strong.
You got to have friends
To make that day last long...
Well the question remains who was the mysterious bomber bombing isis before the U.S announced it would to pin prick strikes. Like ankle bites.
I never suspected Turkey because I believe ISIS springs from Turkey and Turkey’s political Muslim class are giving aid to ISIS.
For Turkey to strike at the caliphate would be the equivalent to supporting the Khurds, and Turkey would never do that.
Some Col. on Fox News mentioned that the US should ask Jordan and Saudi to get involved in the fight against ISIS.
He must be kidding. Jordan and Saudi want to keep a very low profile in the ME and have no desire to antagonize ISIS.
They know that, as soon as they join into the fight against ISIS, they will be attacked and they cannot always depend on US help. These two countries want to keep the status quo as long as possible. They have learned from the US how to kick the can down the road.
Without US involvement, the ME is lost. The next few days will show what the US long-term policy towards the ME will be.
Can we kick them out of NATO, already?
That would be raisis!
Whitey getting rid of non-honky partner.
Putin waiting in the wings, smiling.
Putin can have them.....Let him have Turkey and let him rename Istanbul back to Constantinople.
But what is interesting is that Turkey’s miltary has always at least for quite some time been able to be counted on to slap religious nuts down. Where are they now? Has the leadership been compromised?
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