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Why are Cell Phone Carriers Trying Not To Save Lives?
Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2014 | Scottie Hughes

Posted on 08/09/2014 4:59:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

Have you ever been frustrated with using your GPS system on your phone or in your car and found that the accuracy was often a block or more off? Or worse, in rural areas the streets may not even be shown at all. It might surprise you to learn that the 911 tracking system used by first responders to find people who are in the midst of a dire emergency may be even more inaccurate. Attempts to improve the 911 system to ensure that people needing emergency attention from police, fire or other first responders can be located quickly are being delayed rather than expedited!

Public safety officials say this 911 location problem is widespread, particularly in densely populated urban areas and sparsely populated rural communities. Perhaps the answer lies in quickly getting to the suburbs when an emergency strikes...IF you want 911 to find you!

If you're outdoors, and your phone's GPS chip can connect with satellites above or the phone hits a series of cell towers on the ground, the 911 operator can determine your latitude and longitude (within 50 meters or so) most of the time.

But make that emergency call from inside a building, where it's hard for your phone to "see" the satellites and cell signals tend to bounce around a lot, then your location information could be off by 100 meters or more. That 100 meter difference can be enough to direct responders to the wrong building, and certainly to the wrong floor. In rural areas with spotty cell service the location process may be even more difficult.

That's why the first piece of information 911 operators request from a cellphone caller is their location. But what happens if the caller doesn’t know, or can’t communicate, their location? What happens if the call gets dropped? When seconds count, the minutes or hours of delay may be the difference between life and death.

Calling from a landline alerts the 911 operators to a specific location, but cell phones are a different story…and the problem is only going to get worse. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) estimates that more than 70 percent of all calls to 911 centers now come from wireless phones — that's more than 400,000 calls a day. The majority of these calls (64 percent) are made indoors. And these numbers are sure to go up as people continue to pull the plug on their land-line phone service at home.

The FCC has heard the complaints and the horror stories of people dying before 911 responders can find them. The agency has acknowledged the potential threat to public safety. In fact, in a speech last year, FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel said that "if you call 911 from a wireless phone indoors, cross your fingers, because FCC location standards for emergency calls do not apply indoors."

The FCC has proposed rules to require more accurate location information for emergency wireless calls made indoors: accurate within 50 meters of the phone 67 percent of the time within two years, and 80 percent of the time in five years. The rules would also require vertical location information—for those in multiple-story building — within three years.

So how many lives are at stake? The FCC has stated that these improvements could save approximately 10,000 lives each year. That’s 10,000 parents, grandparents, children, neighbors and friends.

With this kind of problem, and the technology to solve it, we would expect that the issue would be addressed with a sense of urgency, right? In fact, a number of public safety and health organizations are supporting the FCC rules that have been proposed to beef up 911 cell response accuracy, including the National Association of EMTs, the American College of Emergency Physicians, the National Public Safety Telecommunications Council and others. Unfortunately, the cell phone industry is balking at the rules and seeking delays in the implementation of the requirements for more accuracy.

Victims of inaccurate responses to 911 calls are growing with each day. Those who have suffered from the current flawed locator system understand the need for speed in improving the technology that can and will save lives. The rest of us, who may be future victims, or who may have family or friends who could fall into that category, need to speak up now and demand immediate action from our members of Congress to fix a problem that has already resulted in the loss of too many lives.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: cellphones; cellphonetracking; fcc
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Thirty years ago you had to find a phone when something happened. Now somebody on the scene can probably communicate.

Yes. That's true, especially with highway accidents. Also, in some cases reckless driving can be reported on the fly before something happens. I suppose I am wondering how will be spent to make a 90% effective system 99.9% efficient?
21 posted on 08/09/2014 7:04:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Kaslin
With this kind of problem, and the technology to solve it,

At what price?

22 posted on 08/09/2014 8:51:22 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Kaslin
And these numbers are sure to go up as people continue to pull the plug on their land-line phone service at home.

Cell phone quality would have to increase drastically before I would ever consider dropping land-line service. I find it exceedingly difficult to understand anything said on a cell-phone, and hate having to ask people to continually repeat what they last said.

My cell phone is basically an answering machine that I carry with me or keep in my car. It is not even good at that.

23 posted on 08/09/2014 9:45:32 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I'd prefer one that only activated when you called 911. Otherwise, it ain't nobody's business but my own.

If your phone has GPS, the NSA can turn it on anytime they please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2f-MX5uCeo

24 posted on 08/09/2014 10:11:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Kaslin
The FCC has stated that these improvements could save approximately 10,000 lives each year.

While CHOICE kills 1,000,000


Do the math; folks!

25 posted on 08/09/2014 10:39:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure they can.

And; if they deem you a terrorist; they can make your phone explode and kill you.


26 posted on 08/09/2014 10:41:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“I’d prefer one that only activated when you called 911. Otherwise, it ain’t nobody’s business but my own. “

My phone allows me to designate if a service gets my gps location.

OTOH, cell tower tracing is following you whenever your phone is on.


27 posted on 08/09/2014 10:42:37 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: BobL

I would think that homes are still hard-wired. Satellite and some cable services expect a landline hookup to the box, and almost all older construction has phone lines. Frankly, I am surprised if newer construction isn’t wired for phone service, too.


28 posted on 08/09/2014 11:54:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Elsie

What’s it like being a troll in the basement of the White Hut?


29 posted on 08/09/2014 12:52:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Golly; I wouldn’t know.

What’s it like to post stuff that seems to be wild speculation to others?


30 posted on 08/10/2014 4:55:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They may be wired, but does the occupant have service? I know of a number of people that don’t, even though I still do.


31 posted on 08/10/2014 6:02:26 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

Good point, and it is quite possible they do not have landline service. We keep ours, partly because we have DSL, and partly because the phones stay up, even in the worst blizzard (buried lines). Cell service was compromised in a blizzard we had a few years ago which knocked out power to 6000 square miles and disabled cell towers. So we keep the landline.


32 posted on 08/10/2014 6:07:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I too still like land lines, much better quality...I’ll stick with it too.


33 posted on 08/10/2014 7:14:30 AM PDT by BobL
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