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As Docs Opt Out of Obamacare, a Two-Tiered System Is Born
Fiscal Times - Kaiser Health News ^ | August 5, 2014 | Jeffrey Cohen

Posted on 08/05/2014 10:03:10 AM PDT by george76

On a recent afternoon at his office in Hartford, Conn., Dr. Doug Gerard examines a patient complaining of joint pain. Gerard, an internist, checks her out, asks her a few questions about her symptoms and then orders a few tests before sending her on her way.

For a typical quick visit like this, Gerard could get reimbursed $100 or more from a private insurer. For the same visit, Medicare pays less — about $80. And now, with the new private plans under the Affordable Care Act, Gerard says he would get something in between, but closer to the lower Medicare rates.

That's not something he's willing to accept.

"I cannot accept a plan [in which] potentially commercial-type reimbursement rates were now going to be reimbursed at Medicare rates,” Gerard says. “You have to maintain a certain mix in private practice between the low reimbursers and the high reimbursers to be able to keep the lights on."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; heathcare; medicare; obamacare; obamacaredoctors; obamacarerates
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1 posted on 08/05/2014 10:03:10 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Unexpected.


2 posted on 08/05/2014 10:05:08 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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But, but, but he is a rich doctor. He is just being greedy! //sarcasm

My high school friend is my internist. He had add two people to his staff to deal with the additional paperwork. He stopped taking Medicare years ago because the compliance would have meant more staff, for 60% of the revenues.

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure this out.


3 posted on 08/05/2014 10:07:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: george76
Only a matter of time before medical providers will be required by law, regulation, or fiat to opt in. Their option will be not to practice within the US. Primary healthcare will be delivered by mid level providers and paramedics in the not to distant future.
4 posted on 08/05/2014 10:07:58 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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The doctors will all be Government doctors...hence, death will come on command.


5 posted on 08/05/2014 10:09:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: buckalfa

I wouldn’t be surprised to see U.S. doctors establish clinics in The Bahamas, Panama, Costa Rica, Bermude, and at various locations throughout the Caribbean.


6 posted on 08/05/2014 10:11:40 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Sigh, “Bermude” should be Bermuda.


7 posted on 08/05/2014 10:12:26 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: george76

That’s what happened in Brazil.

When we were there, we could use the government doctors, or we could use the private practitioners.

We used the private practitioners.


8 posted on 08/05/2014 10:13:38 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I believe it is already occurring, just as the best British and then Canadian doctors established clinics and hospitals in India and Thailand and now Burma.


9 posted on 08/05/2014 10:15:31 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: george76

Soon to be dubbed by the liberal elites as “healthcare inequality”


10 posted on 08/05/2014 10:18:43 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: buckalfa

Look at the increase in things like nurse practitioners and “little clinics” in grocery stores and pharmacies.

Which are fine for things like strep tests, writing antibiotic prescripts for ear infections, doling out flu shots and the like. But not so much for correctly diagnosing more serious ailments that happen to have similar symptoms to the common cold.


11 posted on 08/05/2014 10:21:55 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Sacajaweau

The doctors along with almost everyone else in the health care field will also be dues paying union members.


12 posted on 08/05/2014 10:22:13 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: buckalfa

I Canada it took about 14 years to get to a one payer system. The Canada Health Act enslaved the doctors!


13 posted on 08/05/2014 10:24:29 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The entire system will be the VA, and we know how well that is going


14 posted on 08/05/2014 10:26:29 AM PDT by woodenickel
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
I wouldn’t be surprised to see U.S. doctors establish clinics in The Bahamas, Panama, Costa Rica, Bermude, and at various locations throughout the Caribbean.

I see hospital ships, just outside the maritime zone limit. It would be like gambling barges or cruises. Of course, laws would have to change a bit with respect to liability, but that would come.

On the land-based clinic side, I've been talking with a friend who has knowledge of doings in the Caymans. In one of the remote arms of Grand Cayman, a hospital has been build to focus on cardiac care which is primarily staffed by Indian doctors. Supposedly it's a well-run place, but hasn't established enough of a track record of care to do business with American insurers. Sign of the times...

15 posted on 08/05/2014 10:28:38 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: george76
Here in Southern California MediCare rates are considered the creme de la creme in terms of reimbursement and have been for the last 10 years. If I could get reimbursed something north of MediCare I would feel like a pig in sh@t
16 posted on 08/05/2014 10:30:49 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: buckalfa

I see “border clinics” on the Mexican side of the border!


17 posted on 08/05/2014 10:32:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: buckalfa
Their option will be not to practice within the US. Primary healthcare will be delivered by mid level providers/i>

Already happening........

18 posted on 08/05/2014 10:39:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: BillM
“The Canada Health Act enslaved the doctors!”

As a doc, the bigger concern is that it enslaves patients. Physicians in the UK can make boatloads of money, paying their NHS dues seeing patients in the am, and seeing private patients either earlier or later in the day. I think that's a horrible system, but when you hear what physicians are paid over there, it's likely that you are hearing their NHS salaries - not counting their supplemental income from seeing private patients. If you don't have the money to go private, you sit on the waiting lists.

What's happening here in the US is that patient choices are getting smaller and smaller. One contribution to this is that big hospital systems buy out the smaller hospitals and buying out the private physicians - creating a huge ‘mega-store’ type of health care structure. Competition is a great determinant of quality. The type of competition that now exists is the competition to most efficiently and cheaply check off the boxes on the ‘quality assurance’ check list.

Contrary to the assurances and beliefs of the quality assurance ‘outcomes analysis’ advocates, this does not lead to high quality care. it leads to ‘average’ care, with a fair amount of things that slip through the cracks that won't be seen by the kind of statistical analysis that is done. Think of it this way, ‘Dr. House’ would never be tolerated in this kind of system.

This is not to say that all or even most hospital administrators have this mentality, but it's the nature of the system, and it is very sad.

19 posted on 08/05/2014 10:41:32 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: george76

I just received notice from my Medicare Supplement insurance that my orthopedic doctor will no longer be included in my coverage. Either I have to find a new doctor, or I have to find a new supplement for my other knee, or any other ailments I develop.


20 posted on 08/05/2014 10:46:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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