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To: Leaning Right

I’m sorry, I’m not making the correlation. I watched the Garner video, I read the Medical Examiners report. Garner did not die from being choked. His trachea was not damaged. I watched the ‘choke’ and I know how to apply the choke. The cop only had what could be considered a choke for about 2 seconds and Garner was talking and conscious when he did. You can not talk when you are being choked. I have been choked myself countless times.

The video is going to vindicate that cop.

Not more than a week later the media ran another story about another cop ‘choking’ a woman. Watching that video they lied again.

Now we are lead to believe the cops planted a gun on the guy that shot the video so they could arrest him and negate the video evidence?

Why would I want to dismiss a video that was going to show my innocence? And his arrest isn’t going to make any difference in the case anyway.

Question: Did the cops hand the gun off to the girlfriend too? You know, like a BOGO deal? Get both of them with one gun? Bust One Get One?

unreal


49 posted on 08/03/2014 7:23:41 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I actually think we are discussing slightly different things. My sole point here is that the timing of Orta's arrest is very, very odd. Either one of two things is true here.

Perhaps it really was just a fantastic coincidence that Orta was arrested so soon after he shot that video. Or perhaps certain cops were following Orta, hoping to get in a little payback.

If it's the first possibility, the NYPD is being unfairly smeared. If it's the second, the NYPD is morally corrupt. It is up to each person to reach his own conclusions.

55 posted on 08/03/2014 7:39:00 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; Leaning Right
I’m sorry, I’m not making the correlation. I watched the Garner video, I read the Medical Examiners report. Garner did not die from being choked. His trachea was not damaged. I watched the ‘choke’ and I know how to apply the choke. The cop only had what could be considered a choke for about 2 seconds and Garner was talking and conscious when he did. You can not talk when you are being choked. I have been choked myself countless times.

Whatever. Tell it to the stiff.

57 posted on 08/03/2014 7:40:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Still 2 seconds of breaking the law.

To stop homicides like that of Eric Garner – or the NYPD chokehold deaths of Michael Stewart in 1983, and Anthony Baez in 1994 – we can’t just ban chokeholds. The NYPD already did that years ago.

They are cops and they repeatedly break the law of their own workplace. And kill people. Keep defending them.

108 posted on 08/05/2014 8:18:36 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

The choke hold isn’t the issue.

Failure to care for your charge, prisoner in this case, is the issue.

Choked the guh to death? No.

Didn’t attempt to ascertain what medical care could be rendered and as I understand it, telling the EMT’s not to render care?

Uhmmm, that’s wrong.


119 posted on 08/05/2014 11:19:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

There ya go again...Cap’n, playing a Medical Professional again....


125 posted on 08/05/2014 2:05:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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