Posted on 07/29/2014 1:08:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
A man with a concealed carry permit shot at an armed robbery suspect who was running from a cell phone store in Crestwood, prompting an officer who was also chasing the suspect to take cover, police said.
The man with the permit told police he was about to step inside an AT&T store at 4756 W. Cal-Sag Road around noon Saturday when he noticed the store was being robbed, Crestwood police said in a statement.
The man said he stayed outside to prevent anyone from entering, police said. After he saw the suspect leaving through a back door, he entered the store and ran out the back too, according to police.
Meanwhile, an officer had been flagged down by several people who told them the store was being robbed...
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
The officer didn’t shoot because there was no dog at the scene.
Top 5 Rules to Remember on Concealed Carry
Started by chip , Jun 30 2014 07:13 PM
Posted 30 June 2014 - 07:13 PM
1. It’s for SELF DEFENSE, not Stuff Defense.
As much as you might want to use a firearm to stop someone from tampering with or stealing your “stuff”, the courts look very unfavorably when someone uses deadly force to protect something that can be replaced by an insurance company. Using a firearm should be a last resort, and only to protect life.
2. If you wouldn’t do it without a gun, DON’T do it with a gun.
If there are places you wouldn’t go without a gun, don’t go there with a gun. If there are people or situations you wouldn’t approach without a gun, don’t approach with a gun. Many people needlessly get into conflict because they think their gun can get them out of it. It’s not a shield of invincibility. We often see these people on the wrong end of a court case, or being posthumously honored for their bravery.
3. Shooting and drawing from a holster are DIMINISHING skills.
Many think that taking a single class or practicing once a year, are all that’s needed for defensive handgun skills. When the time comes that you need to use a firearm for self defense, it’s like the personal Super Bowl of your life. Do you think quarterbacks only practice once a year or a couple of times a year? Plan a practice regimen, even if it’s only 15 minutes of dry fire every week, or one visit to the range every month. If you have the time and interest, get involved with shooting sports (USPSA or IDPA). A firearm is an inanimate object, it requires skill to use it effectively.
4. Be AWARE of your surroundings, listen to your gut, and AVOID conflict whenever you can.
If you carry a firearm for protection, you need to be more aware of your surroundings than ever before. Allowing someone into close proximity (your personal space) can have deadly consequences if they’re able to access your firearm before you can. Listen to your gut. Throw all the PC BS out the window. If your gut tells you someone doesn’t look right, they probably aren’t. If your “spidey sense” makes your arm hair stand up, it’s time to start looking around for a way to avoid/evade, scan for additional threats, and look for cover if you can’t avoid conflict. But YOU have to be in control of the distance. Standing in the open and waiting for a perpetrator is never a good idea.
5. Concealed Carry does NOT equate to POLICE POWERS.
You have not suddenly been given the right or responsibility to enforce any law with or without your firearm (especially with). This is why they issue a license that goes in your wallet, not a badge on your shirt. As much as we’d like to make sure that we keep the peace, a concealed handgun is for personal defense of life, defense of an innocent 3rd party’s life, and defense of life in preventing a forcible felony. Drawing your gun to chase the kid out of the store so you can stop her from stealing a candy bar is not justifiable. This is not to say that you can’t intervene, but it shouldn’t be done with deadly force. Also, see rule #2.
Thanks to RandyP for this one.
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=50130
A town just a few miles away from Crestwood, IL had a dog shooting by cop.
Mother Still in Shock After What Police Officer Did Right in Front of Me and My 6-Year-Old Daughter
Jul. 28, 2014 6:23pm Jason Howerton
A mother is outraged after a police officer in Hometown, Illinois, shot her familys dog in the head right in front of her 6-year-old daughter on Friday. On Monday, the police chief announced that the officer involved in the shooting has been fired.
The tragic incident was set into motion after police received a 911 call from the owners of a 16-month-old German Shepherd/pit bull mix named Apollo, who said their family dog was on the loose. An officer eventually found the dog and reportedly followed it back to its home when the animal growled and approached him in a threatening manner.
The officer reportedly responded by pulling out his firearm and shooting the dog.
Nicole Echlin, the dogs owner, said she was trying to get her dog inside when the officer drew his gun.
Firepower is not going to get you out of a situation that lack of brainpower got you into.
“Firepower is not going to get you out of a situation that lack of brainpower got you into.”
Good motto to adhere to.
Yep. Here’s the FR thread on it => http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186053/posts
Sure I can, just have to make sure nobody sees me.
Stolen for my CCW course!
The guy was armed to bad he didnt get’em good. Great job. Unless we use force we arent getting the streets back.
If this citizen wasn’t beaten about the head and shoulders 50 times with a baton, then the cop wasn’t doing his job...
You’re a glass half empty kind of guy?
“You cant shoot a fleeing felon?”
Only if he poses an immediate danger, i.e. to stop him from killing. otherwise you have to let him go and let the police pick him up later.
No Charges Against Man, 86, Who Fired at Robbery Suspect
The man was permitted to carry a concealed weapon in public, police said.
By Lauren Traut July 30, 2014 at 3:57 am 1
An 86-year-old model citizen will not be charged for firing his weapon at a robber at an AT&T store in Crestwood last week, Chicago Tribune reports.
The man, who has not been identified, holds a concealed carry permit and pulled out his weapon to shoot at a suspect fleeing from the store, 4756 W. Cal Sag Rd, on Saturday.
The suspect was not struck.
A police officer arriving on the scene had to stop chasing the suspect and duck as shots were fired, ABC7 reports.
Demetrius Merrill, 17, is being held on $1 million bond. He was arrested after a search of a wooded area next to the Cal Sag Channel.
http://patch.com/illinois/tinley-park/no-charges-against-man-86-who-fired-robbery-suspect
Thanks KL for this update.
86 years old? Won’t faces charges? I’m wondering who the senile old fool is here> The old geezer recklessly firing a weapon of the prosecutor who OK’d that.
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