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To: LonePalm; camle

Guy is off the rails and I’m gonna need to express this whole thing in the bitch and stitch AA.


46 posted on 07/24/2014 9:11:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

unless you’re the one with the problem, AA isn’t for you, Al-anon is. two different organizations. one for the alcoholic, the other for those close to him.


47 posted on 07/24/2014 9:17:17 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Vendome
It is a sad but important point that a person may initially get sober for someone else but they will only stay sober for themselves.

If you take the alcohol out of the alcoholic all you are left with is the -ic (ick). In order for them to be willing to do the emotional work necessary to clean up that ick they must first hit bottom. That is their bottom, not yours. Some people never hit bottom.

My bottom left me a few hours from death and I think I got off easy. However, it wasn't until that point that I could understand my predicament enough to want to do something about it. It is that desire to get and stay sober is what kept me alive long enough to clean up the massive amount of ick I had accumulated.

You can not recover for your friend. He must do it for himself. Will he do it? Maybe. Will it be easy? Maybe. Is it worth it? You bet.

If you would like to talk about it privately, FReepmail me and I will give you my number or I can call you.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

51 posted on 07/24/2014 9:30:07 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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