If you take the alcohol out of the alcoholic all you are left with is the -ic (ick). In order for them to be willing to do the emotional work necessary to clean up that ick they must first hit bottom. That is their bottom, not yours. Some people never hit bottom.
My bottom left me a few hours from death and I think I got off easy. However, it wasn't until that point that I could understand my predicament enough to want to do something about it. It is that desire to get and stay sober is what kept me alive long enough to clean up the massive amount of ick I had accumulated.
You can not recover for your friend. He must do it for himself. Will he do it? Maybe. Will it be easy? Maybe. Is it worth it? You bet.
If you would like to talk about it privately, FReepmail me and I will give you my number or I can call you.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Oh yeah. We know the drill. Particularly me.
I grew up with Alcoholics who are not rational and angry.
But, like losing weight because you wanna look good and feek good, you are the only one who is going to change.
“Be the light bulb”...
Yeah? PM me and I’ll get a hold of you in a bit.
Guy’s a friggin dork..