I'm shocked, shocked to find rockets are being fired from Gaza.
Posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler
Several airlines already had suspended operations or diverted flights.
The ban comes less than a week after a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was shot down over Ukraine. For Hamas, it could be the biggest break the Islamist group has had since the most recent fighting started -- potentially increasing Israeli's physical and psychological isolation from the rest of the world. The airport handles about 14 million travelers a year.
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BTW, there are rumors that there have been attempts to blind pilots with lasers coming from the West Bank. Not impossible that could be in play here.
I'm shocked, shocked to find rockets are being fired from Gaza.
My thoughts too.
This external islamoNai pressure or sanction definitely underscores the need for Israel to destroy as much of her local IslamoNazi enemy as possible as fast as possible
From another thread, here, it said this order was given because of a Hamas rocket landing about five kilometers away. I took that to mean that another one had not done that before. I actually have not read about Hamas rockets landing that close. I would have to see those reports before I would jump on that bandwagon ... :-) ...
This give Israel no choice but to massively escalate their operation. They would be severely crippled with no air service.
I don’t see now how they can avoid retaking Gaza, doing some serious clean up and settling in for the long haul and try by whatever means to change the mentality of those people.
Tough, tough row ahead, but it can be done - the US did it with Japan after WWII. And ISIS is doing it rather quickly in their newly conquered territory. First thing they need to do is stop worrying about the world’s opinion.
I do believe that Israel is in the process of doing as good of a job of that with Hamas, as they possibly can right now. If they were to do any more than this, Israel might have to call up more than the 74,000 they have already called.
You’ll know whether Israel is going to escalate or not - depending on whether they call up a massively larger amount. They have 74,000 called up right now. If they were to escalate, you’ll FIRST HEAR of a massive and further call up beyond that 74,000.
The circumstance was a Hamas rocket hitting within five kilometers of the airport according to one of the other Freeper articles on it.
That specific thing ... was the “circumstance”.
That whole region sounds like it’s loaded with SAMs and MANPADs. I’m surprised that we don’t hear about shootdowns every day/week/month.
Haven’t landed, they’ve been taken down. The one in Yehuda is the first to make it through. Iron Dome is 90% effective, fire enough, 10% will make it through. If the FAA is a responsible agency they knew the risk to planes on the ground a week ago, as did the airlines. The risk from the south ends not in 24 hours, but when the threat is eliminated. Since the threat won’t end in 24 hours, something else is at work. IMO, Kerry is delivering a clumsy threat, see what we can do. Not much different than lecturing Bibi on his, Kerry’s, combat experience and what he learned from it.
I think they're going to neutralize Hamas, finally. Israel can do without tourism and business flights for a few weeks. El Al is flying, military supply isn't affected. They'll be fine. Personally, I speculate commercial flights will be back.
How do you think that this “circumstance” can be eliminated if Hamas continues to have the capacity to shoot missiles within five kilometers of the airport?
I can understand the difference between now ... and last week, though. That’s a big and important airport and one doesn’t want to be irresponsible and tell US planes they can’t go there, based upon speculation that something might get through (especially with the high rate of success with the Iron Dome).
But when something changes from speculation to “actually happening” ... then one acts. And 24 hours is reasonable to see of anything “actually happens” again. If not, then things can go on as before.
I would say that it is a very reasonable action.
Basically by having no more land within five kilometers, as was the case before this action.
Not if you get paid to make those decisions. The likelihood a rocket will land tomorrow is low, 90% have been intercepted. But Ben Gurion has been targeted since day one, I may have wondered on a thread why the international community wasn't disturbed at the time. The probability of a successful strike tomorrow are about the same as today, yesterday or a week ago. Or next week depending on Israel's actions. Anyone in a position of authority and/or trust knows that, and should be making decisions based on that knowledge. In reality nothing has changed, the odds just caught up.
How does Israel succeed in “having no more land within five kilometers” without degrading all of Hamas’s capabilities or acceding to a cease fire?
There is no way.
Once the FAA banned these flights, how can they re-permit them while Hamas has the potential to hit the airport?
It can’t.
If Israel were to take out Hamas’s missile-launching capacity quickly this would require severe escalation by Israel. With John Kerry in the region to force Israel to stand down, the administration and the media would perceive this as Israeli arrogance and would escalate their rhetoric against Israel.
Well, it is kind of hard to get into the heads of those making those decisions, but I would say that if no more hits are registered within that range and the “ban” is lifted, then they are thinking like I explained above.
But, if no more hits are registered and the officials don’t lift the ban, then they are thinking like you suggest and are considering the “odds” and that they are too dangerous for the flying public.
Of course, another variation is that the officials could have been thinking like I suggest - until - there was a close hit ... and then they shifted to the “odds” ...
We’ll see ... :-) ...
The Iron Dome takes them out ... that’s how.
This is Obama forcing a cease fire
Israel should blockade everything into Gaza including water and electricity and all aid until the flights resume
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