Posted on 07/19/2014 6:21:55 AM PDT by Renfield
ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board.
The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down.
Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.
Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.
Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region.
Some tweets received suggest this may have been a secret military uprising against the current Ukrainian president under the direction of formerly-jailed Prime Minister Timoshenko.
According to other rumors, the black box for this crashed Malaysian Airlines flight was taken by Donetsk separatists. A spokesperson for the rebel group said this black box would be sent to the Interstate Aviation Committee headquartered in Moscow.
The First Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed People's Republic of Donetsk, Andrew Purgin, stated that the flight recorders of the crashed aircraft will be transferred to Moscow for examination.
Sources say the Rebel group leadership hopes this would confirm the Ukrainian military actually shot down this aircraft. This was reported by the news agency Interfax-Ukraine.
ETN statement: The information in this article is not independently confirmed and based on the statement of one airline controller and other tweets received.
Unlawful war ? The Ukraine coup government declared the Russian language illegal. How could the 5 million ethnic Russian separatists declare lawful war when their language was illegal ?
Yeah right. Baseless remarks made to deflect. Sounds like chaff to me. That blogger has a history of being mostly correct. You have a history of being mostly chaff.
You have a VIP flight, and that is what they call flights with 100 aids scientists on board, and you have to redirect them due to weather through an area where you just lost 2 military planes due to a rebellion. Of course they escorted the plane.
The Ukrainian government never passed any law declaring the Russian language illegal. This is a false claim perpetrated by the Russian government controlled media which has been used to stir up ethnic fear in eastern Ukraine. This false claim has been repeatedly refuted on FR. At this point, I find it shocking that anyone could be so misinformed as to believe this. So, are you a liar or just completely misinformed?
Your “mostly correct” blogger is being shown to be mostly an idiot, on this very thread.
Wrong. Was standing up to Putin during the invasion of Georgia. Right here. Where were you ? Was standing up to Putin during the Litvinenko right here. Where were you ?
Toilet paper falling down from 30,000 feet and staying intact ? You live in a fantasy world. It looks similar to your upper right image.
By people who claim toilet paper can fall intact from 30,000 feet. Maybe in a fantasy land where there is no water vapor, wind shear or cloud moisture.
Unlawful war ? The Ukraine coup government declared the Russian language illegal.
That’s false. No Ukrainian govt has ever made the Russian language “illegal”. And if you knew anything about the long history Russia itself has of banning languages you would not be parroting that Kremlin propaganda.
It’s quiet instructive you are ok with Putin killing Americans in Ukraine. How about here?
Dude, It’s not toilet paper. That fact doesn’t make it chaff. Get a grip.
The coup government stated they had intent to pass the law. They were actually quoted stating their intent. The fact that the entire situation blew up on them due to that intent, is their problem. Not mine.
I’m confused.Did Fighter Jets fly along side the B777?
No. That you are confused is the point of all this. Russia pumps out whopper fairy tales to distract from their culpability in the murder of 300 people.
The law, which was never enacted, would have repealed an earlier law that made Russian and official language along side Ukrainian. It had nothing to do with banning anyone from speaking Russian. You appear determined to lie the facts.
Your comrade claimed it was toilet paper. And now more chaff claiming he did not. Have a perfect grip on the situation.
Please try to follow: it’s not toilet paper, and it’s not chaff. That’s my “grip.” What’s your excuse?
How do you feel about Spanish in Californian government documents?
Seems Alinsky. Rule # 11 is being played here....
And it is quite instructive that you are okay with lying about what Freepers state. If this was an accident, these guys deserve the same justice that fell on the Ukrainians who accidentally shot down a Russian plane load of Jews. And some of those might have been American. In case you have not noticed, there is a war in this area. There is now a history of civilian planes getting shot down over the Ukraine airspace. Should not happen at all. Ever. If this was an intentional act against civilians, try them for murder. From what we have seen, there is no evidence they wanted to kill these civilians. They thought it was a military plane. IE - Accidental shooting. Unless you can provide some actual evidence other then articles from Time.
Left the state.
I'm not saying that the streamers were certainly TP. I'm saying they were TP or other debris (that's my original quote). They were NOT chaff (check the ruler for scale in the above picture of chaff, genius).
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