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Schumer: You Don’t Have to Convert But You Might Not Be Able to Do Business Either
Townhall.com ^ | July 18, 2014 | Charlotte Hays

Posted on 07/18/2014 6:24:14 PM PDT by Kaslin

Should people with strong religious convictions prepare to violate their beliefs or steer clear of corporate activity in the United States?

Should Hobby Lobby, owned by evangelical Christians who opposed having to pay for coverage of abortion-inducing drugs, have shut down its 575 outlets across the U.S. rather than challenging the federal government’s contraception mandate in court?

Absurd as it sounds, Senator Chuck Schumer seems to be proposing just that. Schumer was one of the backers of a bill, mercifully blocked in the Senate for now, that would have overridden the Supreme Court’s protection of Hobby Lobby’s religious freedom.

Some commentators have summed up what Schumer said after the Hobby Lobby ruling this way: your faith or your company. Unfortunately, that synopsis of what the senator said is neither flip nor off base.

"We wouldn’t tell the owners of Hobby Lobby to convert to a different religion or disobey their religion," the New York Democrat said. "But we don’t say that they have to open up a company. And go sell toys, or hobby kits.” For good measure, Schumer added, “We don’t have any [Hobby Lobby outlets] in New York, so I don’t know exactly what they sell.”

So is this religious liberty in the United States circa 2014, as seen by one of the most prominent members of the political class: you don't have to convert (hey, thanks!) but nor should you count on being able to conduct your businesses in accordance with your consciences? Like the English Catholics who were precluded from going to universities or engaging in certain activities, including serving in Parliament, evangelicals and other devout religious citizens in the U.S. should, as Schumer sees it, not be able to undertake certain economic activities unless they do so with the knowledge that they may have to sell out or compromise on the matter of their religious liberty if the government comes up with some new regulation.

Schumer is a denizen of the secular Northeast where evangelical Christians are in some spots as exotic as crepe paper and other hobby supplies, but one would hope that even sophisticated Manhattanites would recognize that this puts our country on a troubling path, in which the government has the right to make it difficult for the devout to fully participate in our society while observing their religious views.

Let’s suppose for the sake of argument that Hobby Lobby, unable to get a hearing before the Supreme Court, simply had stopped selling toys and hobby kits rather than doing something that its owners, the Green family, believe to be profoundly morally culpable. Stranger things have happened.

If Hobby Lobby had followed the Schumer Diktat and shut down it’s $3 billion dollar enterprise, 23,000 Hobby Lobby employees would have lost their jobs. Being unemployed, especially in this economy, is arguably a more dire situation than being without free access to one of the four contraception drugs that the Greens objected to providing (they have no problem with the other sixteen on the FDA-approved list for insurance coverage).

Let loose into the current economy, many of Hobby Lobby's employees might have a hard time replacing their lost jobs. That's because, in part on account of the Green family’s religious convictions, a gig at Hobby Lobby pays better than many of the jobs the Obama administration brags about adding whenever there is the slightest uptick in a jobs report. In 2013, Hobby Lobby raised its lowest wage to $14 for full-time employees and $9.50 for part-time employees. Around 16,000 Hobby Lobby employees are full-time.

Unlike all too many other businesses, Hobby Lobby is growing. It expects to add new locations—and with these new locations new jobs—this year. No one is compelled to work for the company of course, but many workers are not only attracted to these higher-than-typical wages, but also with the comparatively generous benefit package Hobby Lobby offers. Though they lack the full complement of contraceptive coverage, full-time Hobby Lobby employees are eligible to enroll in a generous benefit plan that includes medical, dental, prescription drugs, plus with long-term disability and life insurance.

Hobby Lobby offers a 401(k) plan with a generous match from the company. The headquarters boasts an on-site health clinic open to all full-time employees and family members who are covered under the company’s health insurance plan.

It wouldn’t just be those out-of-work former Hobby Lobby employees affected by the closing of the company. The company’s suppliers would also feel an impact. Since Hobby Lobby stocks around 65,000 items, we can assume quite a few of the company’s vendors would suffer, too.

Schumer, of course, is probably bluffing—he figures that people like the Greens will come to their senses and buckle before doing anything as drastic as going out of business for the sake of their consciences. He shouldn’t be so sure. Some business people would see the wisdom of bending to regulations they originally opposed; but others would not. Religious conviction has a way of confounding the secular.

Religious liberty is a bedrock of American tradition, and there is simply no need to close the doors of the economy to religious employers. Rather than cavalierly suggesting that corporations such as Hobby Lobby have no place in the United States, Schumer could better serve his constituents by trying to lure a Hobby Lobby into New York. I’m told the city could use some new businesses.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; chuckschumer; hobbylobby
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Why would anyone listen to Chuckie Schumer?
1 posted on 07/18/2014 6:24:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Mark of the Beast


2 posted on 07/18/2014 6:24:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Yup. Now is the time.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 6:25:55 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: Kaslin

I hate Nazis. I’ve always hated Nazis.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 6:26:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: GeronL
first thing that popped into MY head, also.

Yes sir ... plain or filter ?

Flip top box or soft back ?

Regular or menthol ?

wrist or forehead. ?

5 posted on 07/18/2014 6:26:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin
Dear Chuck Schumer:

I'll make sure I hide my faith and morals in my attic when I see them come to load you into a boxcar.

Sincerely,

Alberta's Child

6 posted on 07/18/2014 6:28:43 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like 666


7 posted on 07/18/2014 6:29:12 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Kaslin

If Schumer wishes to live in a godless totalitarian state, he should move to Russia. Oh, wait. That crap didn’t work there either and they’re giving it up.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 6:30:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: knarf

You’ve got a lot to like with a Marlboro. Filter, flavor, pack or box.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 6:30:53 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Kaslin

Why Chuckie, you would look SO dashing with that Swastika armband on your suit, wouldn’t you?


10 posted on 07/18/2014 6:31:20 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Kaslin

Chuckie you ignorant slut

Can a man be a slut that right he is Congressman


11 posted on 07/18/2014 6:31:35 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kaslin

Why would anyone vote for much lrss listen to Chuckie Schumer?


12 posted on 07/18/2014 6:32:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Especially those Illinois Nazis. But New York Nazis are right up there, too!


13 posted on 07/18/2014 6:32:50 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SandRat
Why would anyone vote for much lrss listen to Chuckie Schumer?

Consider his constituents.

14 posted on 07/18/2014 6:34:04 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Kaslin
For good measure, Schumer added, “We don’t have any [Hobby Lobby outlets] in New York, so I don’t know exactly what they sell.”

There are at least a dozen Hobby Lobby stores in New York State.

15 posted on 07/18/2014 6:34:30 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: gasport
There is one right around the corner from me here in WNY, so Herr Schumer is once again talking out of his wazoo.
16 posted on 07/18/2014 6:38:08 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Kaslin

Schumer would have made a good Nazi, but since the Nazis are largely out of business, he’s become a good Commie.

Seigy Heil Herr Schumer-Putin!


17 posted on 07/18/2014 6:39:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

So, Chucky Schmuck claims the 1st amendment no longer applies in the US.

He needs to be tossed out of Congress. He represents nothing American.


18 posted on 07/18/2014 6:39:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Kaslin
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I'm guessing this was OK with Chuckie?
19 posted on 07/18/2014 6:39:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Kaslin

Such irony, we have people hyperventilating over Putin while we have a communist deconstructing our own country right under our noses. He may look and act inept, but he is acieiving his goals with little blowback. I think that fact has even surprised Obama. As Valerie says, “easy peasy”.

People like Schumer should scare the hell out of freedom loving people.

When freedom is gone and tyrants are controlling your whole life, it really matters not which tyrants are running the place. A tyrant is a tyrant.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 6:40:01 PM PDT by dforest
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