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1 posted on 07/13/2014 4:07:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 4:09:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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Right, you effeminate self serving creep . . . let’s just abolish all self defense laws

Disgusting


3 posted on 07/13/2014 4:10:41 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Get rid of "birthright citizenship" Out of room . . . no mas)
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What’s he smoking? The instigator got a fatal bullet wound, which he earned.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 4:11:28 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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Welcome to the dark side of the farce, Mr Crist
5 posted on 07/13/2014 4:11:44 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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Crist is appearing more and more desperate.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 4:14:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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No there’s something wrong with you


8 posted on 07/13/2014 4:16:29 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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‘Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Charlie Crist...’

Maybe his freedoms should be reviewed.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 4:17:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Trayvon Martin photo: George Zimmerman  Trayvon Martin lynching 0_zpsb1499272.jpg
12 posted on 07/13/2014 4:24:04 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Charlie you are useless. You are a lawyer. The US Justice system is not about right an wrong as much which side gives the best argument that a jury of peers makes a decision on. My decision on you, Charlie, is you don’t have the moxie or the class to be a Governor of the State of Florida. Goobernatorial would be more apropro.
Freegards
LEX


15 posted on 07/13/2014 4:27:20 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Orangeman panders again !!!


16 posted on 07/13/2014 4:34:53 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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Just a little more corrupt, self-serving dishonesty from the Left.


17 posted on 07/13/2014 4:36:36 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Problem is Rick Scott ordered the prosecution of Zimmerman...so Scott is not much better on 2d Amendment

Looks like Third Party Conservative is my vote


18 posted on 07/13/2014 4:38:43 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (They are Illegal Aliens...not immigrants)
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I hope something very bad happens to people who push this nonsense. And no I don’t feel bad about that. It’s karma.


19 posted on 07/13/2014 4:42:05 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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Crist is trying to nail down the anti-Zimmermann vote, which must be the majority in FL now.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 4:44:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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And to think that there were actually some on FR that thought this worthless piece of shit was a viable candidate for POTUS.

The flip-flopping idiot is a viable candidate for the dung heap.

Period.

21 posted on 07/13/2014 4:44:18 PM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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Hey Crist..! Does that go for law enforcement also...??

Anyone...ANYONE should have the right to return deadly force with deadly force.. The right to life is one of our basic liberties...

And it also is a "true fact" that Crist is nothing more then a "cheap" politician that would not recognize a fact or even admit to its existence in anyway what-so-ever...

Facts have no place in his scheming political world... His primary concerns are now, and always have been, His own personal self interest....

Crist is a very prime example of the "Orwellian Pig"..!

32 posted on 07/13/2014 5:05:49 PM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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Crist should probably be more worried about the hordes of “white Hispanic” illegals flooding the states who will end up committing actual crimes.


33 posted on 07/13/2014 5:09:05 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Obama Administration: A conspiracy of corruption and incompetence.)
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Christ, you were for gun rights as a RINO now as a Marxist you are against them. If Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam was running as the Republican candidate, Adam would wipe the floor with Charlie, but Rick Scott (hated by the media) will still win and Charlie can still do law for Morgan and Obama ...for the Rich Liberals (paraphrasing Morgan and Morgan slogan..for the people. What BS...)


35 posted on 07/13/2014 5:16:05 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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