Posted on 07/13/2014 10:26:37 AM PDT by PoloSec
exas Gov. Rick Perry slammed President Barack Obama on Fox News Sunday, once again demanding the National Guard, and called on Obama to stop the blame game and get up and lead.
Host Brit Hume asked Perry to explain why he wants the National Guard sent to Texas, inquiring skeptically, “What exactly would National Guardsman and women do on the border?”
Perry explained that the National Guard acts as a front-line deterrent for illegal immigrants, and is critically important now, because most border patrol agents are stuck taking care of the illegal immigrant children. “The president was not even aware that his border patrol was back 40 or 45 miles from the border at these checkpoints,” he said. “They need to be right on the ripper, they need to be there as a show of force.”
“This flood of children is pulling away the border patrol from their normal duties of keeping bad people, keeping the drug cartels, they’re being distracted.”
Hume pushed back, questioning how effective the National Guard could be when they aren’t allowed to actually detain anyone. “They’re not, under the law, allowed to apprehend any of these children that are crossing, are they?” Hume asked.
“It’s the visual of it that’s the most important,” Perry countered. “Their conversations are being monitored with calls back to Central America, and the message is ‘hey come on up here, everything is great, they’re taking care of us,’ and that needs to stop.”
Hume then asked if Perry thought the presence of the National Guard would really deter children who have already “made the harrowing journey.”
“Are they really going to be deterred by the presence of troops along the border who won’t shoot them, and can’t arrest them?”
“What we’re talking about is sending the message back now to staunch the bleeding,” Perry replied. “Those that are already here, to address them, to humanitarily [sic] take care of them, to make sure they are safe — to reunite them with their families — that is the most humanitarian thing we can do.”
Perry again stressed the necessity of the National Guard to help get border patrol agents back to their actual jobs. “Right now, reports of up to 70 percent of them [border patrol] are taking care of these young people who have come in, rather than do their job of securing the border.”
Hume brought up President Obam, and his hope that Perry would “put the heat” on the Texas congressional delegation to pass “this nearly $4 billion dollar measure” that he is proposing.
And Perry had some choice words for the president.
“Very little of it [the bill] is for border security. And I think until he gets realistic about the problem and how you deal with the problem, and it is a border security issue, and we’ve got a track record now of five plus years of him disregarding what is going on on the border, so here’s his opportunity to truly lead,” Perry declared.
“Don’t blame this on anyone. Be a leader, lay out a plan.”
Hume then asked Perry to clarify if he was saying he would disregard the president and not pressure the Texas delegation to pass the bill.
“So in other words, governor, you don’t particularly support the bill, and you’re not going to be encouraging your delegation to pass it. Is that a fair assessment?”
“I think you have distilled the correct answer,” Perry replied.
What’s your question you asked me 10 years ago?
I’ll be happy to answer....lol
I thought we were having a dialog here. I guess I just asked ya too many unpleasant questions huh?
That’s absurd. You’re the one who calls yourself lonestar and then immediately took personal, took as criticism, took as blame, mere suggestions that Perry should call out the Texas NG. That’s scary stuff. Thats childish.
“So you think that given both federal and state refusal to stop invasion (and indeed much evidence they are aiding it) the people have no choice but to “deal with it”?”
The Second Amendment isn’t just about the individual right to bear arms. It is also about a “well regulated militia.” The “people” that want to be part of any militia MUST be under government control (duly elected officials). The COTUS makes no provisions for a “private” army. Anyone organizing or advocating persons to act outside of the COTUS in forming unauthorized “militias” are nothing more than insurgents like ISIS in Iraq.
The way the citizenry “deal” with this issue is to hold federal and state officials accountable at elections and other lawful and orderly processes set up to ensure transitions when officials do not follow the law.
Additionally, using one’s “oath of office” to justify insurrection is just plain wrong. You don’t violate the COTUS (by ignoring the rules sent forth in it) to supposedly “uphold” it. The oath of office was NEVER meant to relieve an individual of his/her constitutional mandate to follow the orders of superiors.
BTW - I am deeply upset with the border situation, and I want to see it ended. However, I want this to occur properly by the people (through their congress) forcing the executive branch of government to act in accordance with the proper laws of this nation. That is where we need to be focusing our actions. That is what Governor Perry is attempting to do....put pressure on the current POTUS to act as required by law.
Talk of “militias” needs to stop. This is NOT some third world country.
There's no Constitutional mandate to follow orders of superiors; that's part of the oath of enlistment.
Moreover, you are ignoring the plain fact that the orders to stand down [/not-engage/allow-it-to-happen] during an invasion are illegal, Treason to be exact.
You are asserting that illegal orders must be followed.
1. I didn't take any of it PERSONALLY!...only in your mind!
2. You mouthed off about calling out the TNG...something you know ZERO about
3.You opine on on the actions/inactions of others that helps nothing
4. What have you done to really help the situation besides mouthing off?
5. You have made an issue of this ...I don't care what you think about me personally. I don't care what you think about period!
6. Run along and do something constructive because misjudging others hasn't helped!
7. You come across as a bullying, uninformed blowhard.
Don't mess with Texas, bubba
you obviously took it personally, and you even admitted in your second related post that you did….your whining about “Texas being blamed…”
You lose this debate on the reality of your own words - which cannot be looked at outside the perspective of your chosen screen name - and the two together paint a powerful and accurate picture.
And so does your LAST sentence in your LAST post….”don’t mess with Texas” - I mean, you prove me right time and again and everyone knows it. You’re too easy.
(BTW, ‘m not messin with Texas, I’m obliterating you, you who have zip zero nada to do with Texas’ greatness…..which I readily acknowledge)
With that, I agree.
Otherwise, I think you are a blithering idiot whose perception fails you miserably.
“If Oklahomans were invading Texas, then I could see Perry dealing with it.”
Half of Oklahoma has already moved to Texas. That’s why we often refer to Texas as Baja Oklahoma.
Perry could call out the Texas National Guard and put them on the border. Why doesn’t he? Perry is either too cheap, because Texas would have to pay for it, or he is enjoying this as a political issue. Either way he needs to lose those new glasses of his because he looks like a pussy.
My opinion is because he's actually for the illegals invading [like a surprisingly large chunk of DC is]; if he is not, then he's just a ball-less POS who is afraid to exercise his own lawful authority.
TX Constitution
Art 4, Sec. 7. COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF MILITARY FORCES; CALLING FORTH MILITIA.
He shall be Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. He shall have power to call forth the militia to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and to repel invasions.
that’s because I’m talking way over your head. I’m sure to you it does sound like gibberish.
None of which changes the fact that I absolutely NAILED you….and you NAILED yourself.
You have perfected the art of blabbing about "stuff" you know little or nothing about. You aren't impressive because it's obvious you don't know what you are talking about! You project too much. You aren't a mind reader.
You talked about "beating" me when I didn't know we were in a contest! You do not tolerate difference of opinion well, and especially if another's differs from your own.
You certainly enjoy patting yourself on the back!... ego problem?
I'm so sorry but I just don't find anything about you impressive!
I think you are a jerk!
I may be a jerk, but I easily qualify for Mensa, and I most certainly do know what Im talking about - you have no idea. NO idea - where my thoughts and opinions are heard. My ghost writing client list would blow you totally away.
Sorry but it isn't obvious...LOL!
and I most certainly do know what Im talking about - you have no idea. NO idea - where my thoughts and opinions are heard.
Again, not obvious. Am I supposed to be impressed? Sorry , Charlie!
My ghost writing client list would blow you totally away.
Well, I'm not on it, thank heaven, but maybe that explains why you put your imagined thoughts in my head.
You definitely should remain a ghost...ghost writer in the sky? You can toot your horn all day long, you don't impress.
you’re too ignorant to even know what ghost writing is obviously….and no, I don’t have the patience to try and walk you through it. Could take years.
Suffice it to say this: you’ve heard many of my words - many many - and have no idea they were my words.
There you go again!
if you do, and knew who I did this for, you would very likely be very impressed, actually.
I'm sorry, but I nearly spit out my coffee at this guy!
"...if you do, and knew who I did this for, you would very likely be very impressed, actually...
Oh, jeez!
What do you think their problem is with Texas/Texans/Perry? They obviously have "daddy issues"...only with us.
I posted some facts about the size of the border on another thread and asked what any other state was doing to help Texas in their efforts and...Good Grief! The crap I caught over that...
Talk about tootin' his own horn.
Chas, are you impressed yet? Are you ready for this overblown ego?
Actually, he is far more impressed with himself than is anybody else.
If we knew his real name we probably have never heard of him!
But he has the answers to the border problems...if only people would listen !! LOL!
Why do you think ghostwriters should be impressive? It's not the ghostwriter's story! They are only story tellers...somebody else's story. You expect reflective glory?
Oh! I know! You're Bill Ayers!
As for your list...if Barbara Olson isn't on it, I'm not impressed.
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