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1 posted on 07/02/2014 4:36:24 AM PDT by thackney
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"We would prefer the magic market-based solution," said Nicholas Ucci of the Rhode Island Office of Energy Resources, "but that solution has not come forward."
Nonsense. The magic market-based forces are always at work. If there is not enough capacity, it is because there is not enough profit to overcome the regulatory hurdles.
2 posted on 07/02/2014 4:41:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Hey! I have a solution! How about you don't "retire" any power sources until you have alternatives in-place with which to replace them?

No?

Well, bye!

3 posted on 07/02/2014 4:42:02 AM PDT by apoxonu
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Only to liberals - higher taxes will lead to lower energy costs.

Let them freeze in the dark...


4 posted on 07/02/2014 4:43:08 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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They should go out and Hug-A-Tree!


5 posted on 07/02/2014 4:43:15 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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I see lawn signs everywhere rejecting gas pipeline development.

Rational people have no problem with gas pipeline developmnet, buyt the moonbats are anti-engergy and NIMBY fanatics, and they are the prevailing political force.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 4:46:39 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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We live there and my wife depends upon an oxygen machine. If power goes out I’ve got a generator but that’s only good for a couple of days.


8 posted on 07/02/2014 4:48:33 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
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Raise the rates, lower the demand. How’s that for a “magic market solution”?


9 posted on 07/02/2014 4:48:49 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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No natural gas should flow to NeoEuropa....... let the yankees freeze, in the dark

That is the logical recourse for hating energy, hating America


10 posted on 07/02/2014 4:49:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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as New England states seek to reduce carbon emissions.

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It is a situation that energy experts for the states of Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Rhode Island called untenable — particularly economically. Electricity production causes carbon dioxide production except in nuclear and hydro. There isnn't enough hydo and nuc to produce the electricity that the government loving freedom hating populations of the northeast want. WELL let them live in the dark and freeze. They want to "curb greenhouse gasses" for the non existant threat of "global (globull) warming" Well here's their chance to do their part. F*** 'em Let them hug their picture of 0 and the first wookie to keep warm.

11 posted on 07/02/2014 4:52:16 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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ya can’t pay for infrastructure when you are giving leaches cradle to grave welfare.
Who needs good roads when you can use the road money to bribe voters?


12 posted on 07/02/2014 4:53:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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Where is your solar panel god now?


25 posted on 07/02/2014 5:16:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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And many of these reasonably priced alternatives emit greenhouse gases and therefore come at an environmental cost, said experts, as New England states seek to reduce carbon emissions.

This is what happens in liberal paradises where people believe that they can live happily ever after in their fantasy world. They will have to learn how to live in the dark. Actions have consequences.

26 posted on 07/02/2014 5:20:27 AM PDT by centurion316
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The tree-huggers in Maine have managed to kill just about every proposed energy projects that have come forth in the last 50 years. The chickens are now coming home to roost.
Too bad for them but I feel no remorse for them. Drill Baby Drill!!!!


29 posted on 07/02/2014 5:29:07 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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On the map linked below mouse over the colored points and the LMP is the power price per MW. The different colors reflect different prices and also represent “binding constraints” which are bottlenecks on the grid for reasons like power lines down or transformer problems.

Even though this is MISO, which represents MidUS, you can mouse over various colored points in the eastern US from Canada down to Florida.

https://www.misoenergy.org/LMPContourMap/MISO_All.html

I watched the entire eastern US grid at max capacity many times this winter and as recently as last week. I’ve wondered if shutting down so many coal plants in the east is part of the reason. Many utilities chose to shut down coal plants instead of try and meet the new mercury and NOx control EPA mandates. The average customer doesn’t have a clue what is going on behind the light switch and blames the utilities for rising power prices.

Artificially raise the price of energy and you will kill the economy - no way around it.

MISO real time and predicted wind power; https://www.misoenergy.org/MarketsOperations/RealTimeMarketData/Pages/DayAheadWindForecast.aspx

I pinged everyone on this thread because most people don’t know real time information on the grid is on the web.


32 posted on 07/02/2014 5:49:14 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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“How the PJM Power Grid in the US Skirted Very Close to Blackouts During January’s Polar Vortexes”

http://theenergycollective.com/jimpierobon/347606/how-pjm-power-grid-us-skirted-very-close-blackouts-during-january-s-polar-vortexe


33 posted on 07/02/2014 5:49:57 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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Meanwhile, here is the reaction in the Berkshires (massachusetts) to a badly needed natural gas pipeline:

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/circare/html/gsa_template.jsp?sortBy=mngi&similarTo=&similarType=find&type=any&aff=3&view=entiresitesppublished&query=pipeline&searchbutton=Go

Comments in the paper’s online forums in favor of the pipeline are met with dersiion and deleted. It’s sad.


34 posted on 07/02/2014 5:51:44 AM PDT by HalfIrish
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The six states, at the direction of their governors, have formed the New England Committee on Electricity to come up with solutions. On June 20, the committee proposed that a tariff be imposed to add natural gas pipelines and transmission lines with the goal of increasing power reliability throughout the region.

So they think a tax will keep them warm? It is sad people are that stupid, but since they're yankees I will gleefully make fun of them!

40 posted on 07/02/2014 6:35:12 AM PDT by gr8eman (A good rant should have the word "crap" in it at least 4 times!)
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No problem.

Obama got $900 Billion in Stimulus money to fix America's transportation network and electric power grid.

The money for this upgrade is probably just delayed by some minor red tape.

Or maybe it wasn't shovel ready when the money was being allocated.


43 posted on 07/02/2014 6:47:19 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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I have a brilliant idea: Let’s shut down a few more coal fired generating plants!


57 posted on 07/02/2014 7:43:06 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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How will bringing in another 30 million illegals effect this situation?


59 posted on 07/02/2014 8:01:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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