Posted on 07/01/2014 6:27:56 AM PDT by Star Traveler
Despite the countless messages of condolence issued by leaders across the Western world, the international community would show little understanding if Israel were to launch a wide-scale military operation against Palestinian targets or expand settlements in response to the killing of the three Israeli teenagers, a senior diplomatic official warned Tuesday.
“We had some legitimacy to carry out Operation Brothers Keeper, including massive arrests of Hamas members,” the official told The Times of Israel, referring to the IDF’s efforts to locate Eyal Yifrach, Gil-ad Shaar and Naftali Fraenkel, who were snatched from a hitchhiking post south of Jerusalem and killed on June 12. The international community frowned upon the 18-day search for the three, which included the arrests of hundreds of Hamas members, “but not too much,” the official said, adding that Israel was only condemned when noncombatants were harmed.
“Now the whole thing is over and we will not have legitimacy for any military operation,” the official, who insisted on anonymity, said. “While we were looking for the kidnapped teenagers there was legitimacy for the operation, though not for the casualties. There were condemnations, but it was understood that we had to find the teens. Now, however, this justification does not exist anymore. Now any forceful IDF operation will not be understood.”
Israel is expected to crack down on terrorist organizations in the coming days, but world leaders expect Jerusalem not “to provoke too much violence on the ground,” the diplomatic official said. “That’s not going to look justifiable.”
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It would not surprise me if the Israel cabinet is dealing with pressure to go all out and clean out the Gaza rat’s nest of Hamas in full. Israel has that power to do so.
Sadly, Gaza has become ONE BIG RATS nest that needs to be CLEANED OUT.
Israel would want to severely reduce their capabilities - but what Israel does NOT want to do is destroy all semblance of government - or else Israel is forced to actually come in there itself, and supply the “civilian government” on its own. Israel wants to leave enough structure so that it is still self-governing and does not require Israel to come in, itself.
SO ... Israel will try to severely degrade the “terrorist capacity” without destroying infrastructure that is needed. The real problem is that Hamas is the terrorist organization — AND — they are the government at the same time.
The question is how do you clean it out — and leave a government in place so that Israel does not have to place its soldiers there? Israel has to strike a balance in order to not have its soldiers required to “stay in place”.
I think that letting Gaza go was a HUGH mistake, but that is me.
Hamas could very well learned that it made a HUGH mistake taking on its neighbor.
Most likely I could be right on this one.
Wonder why it disappeared?
Your guess is as good as Bibi’s.
>>Israel does extreme violence to the terrorists and their operations facilities - but Israel very very carefully avoids any collateral damage to Palestinian civilians.<<
If Israel knew where the kidnappers parents lived, would sending a rocket attack on that house be out of favor because the parents are not terrorists?
I can only say what I’ve seen from the past. All the rocket attacks have been directed at leadership or operatives in the field who are actively attacking (like launching rockets or mortars). I’ve never seen an entire family attacked by rocket.
In terms of demolition of homes ... an entire family’s home can be demolished, but they will always get the people out of the house. And they won’t be demolishing a whole series of homes for an extended family, but only the one associated with the terrorist.
They won’t harm the rest of the family, but they will arrest the terrorist.
This is from all I’ve seen.
Then in my opinion Israel is committing suicide. Where is the lesson to be learned when I raise my kids to be terrorists and you only arrest me? What have my kids or other parents learned? Raise your kids to be terrorists and you may get put in jail for a few months.
Allies?
That send money, aid and weapons to your sworn enemies.?
Is that what you call them?
Yeah, there is a cycle of terrorist violence there. That’s one of the reasons why Israel had, as part of the Oslo Accords - for the Palestinian Authority to stop the incitement to violence - as in programs on TV, school materials, official speeches, etc. All those materials and media have not been cleaned up yet.
The other thought on that is that Israel just gets all the Palestinians on the other side of a border (for the Palestinian State) and militarily enforce a non-military stance for that state, and make sure Israel’s security protocols are sound - and then it doesn’t matter what they say on TV or radio or in the schools or in speeches. The Palestinians are totally “on their own” at that point.
You do know that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants the USA to keep sending money to the Palestinian Authority, because it’s in Israel’s best interests to do so?
For humanitarian purposes and to hopefully get some to go legit.
You really think it is worth it?
a Rat nest is a rat nest.
Israel does it for some solid “self-interest”!
Israel is required to provide law and order and some civilian structure over the areas that they hold and control militarily. If Israel did this directly and had Jewish officials and soldiers for all the civilian infrastructure - everyone of those thousands upon thousands of individuals would become targets and a significant number would be killed,
Instead Netanyahu and Israel have agreed with the Palestinian Authority to provide all that and the normal police forces. That gets all the Jews and soldiers out of harm’s way staying safe!
It’s an extremely good deal for Israel!
Incorporating the land is not the same as incorporating the people who currently dwell on the land, and use it as a staging area to attack you.
In response to attacks, if Israel was just to take a piece of land in retaliation, and if anyone lives there, tell them to move into Arab territory, the situation would solve itself. Either the Arabs would be peaceful, or they would become citizens of Egypt and Jordan.
I would not characterize it as such, as recent events so clearly demonstrate. Instead why not call it what it truly is? It is the best available of many options, *NONE* of which could even remotely be characterized as 'good'...
the infowarrior
Forcefully moving population groups out of areas and then taking them over — is one of the definitions of a WAR CRIME ... and Israel doesn’t do war crimes.
In fact, Israel is currently and FALSELY ACCUSED of doing such things now, by the enemy - and then we find the so-called supporters of Israel (usually ignorant) actually encouraging Israel to commit the very war crimes that Israel so vociferously DENIES and the enemy LOUDLY PROCLAIMS!
That is not a war crime as such. What you are thinking of is the UN’s Article 18 of the Draft Code of Crimes Against the Peace and Security of Mankind declares “large scale” arbitrary or forcible deportation to be a crime against humanity.
And that is a movement of people, not a seizure of property. If the Israelis felt moral pangs about this, they could take the land with eminent domain, while paying a fair market price to those who currently owned it.
As far as Muslims are concerned, they would never voluntarily sell their land to Israelis, or any infidel. And the Israelis have somewhat recognized this, in forcibly buying land in East Jerusalem.
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