Posted on 07/01/2014 2:30:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The nation’s second-largest physicians’ organization said Monday that healthy women who are not pregnant do not need routine pelvic exams, a controversial recommendation based on its analysis that, on balance, the manual screening does more harm than good.
The American College of Physicians, which represents 137,000 internal medicine physicians and related specialists, said the diagnostic procedure causes some women discomfort, anxiety, pain and additional medical costs, and may keep some from seeing their doctors. Yet it does little to detect ovarian cancer or other disorders.
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I really don’t think that all cervical cancers are caused by STDs, but am not in a position to give stats etc. I know that those types of cancers ran through the women in my husband’s family. his grandmothers etc. died from it, and his sister died about 12 years ago from breast cancer, which from what I recall there is some “triangle” of cancers. It’s a concern that I have for my daughters, in case it’s genetic. Breast cancer certainly can be. My point being that while STDs are rampant in this day and age, I really doubt it was an issue with women off the boat from Italy around the turn of the century!
My insurance covers annual paps and mammograms and I will continue to have them, and will encourage my daughter who is engaged to be married, to do the same.
Or having sex with multiple partners. Or your partner is sleeping around.
But then of course that is how you get STD’s.
As at least two of us have said, you can do whatever you choose to do. That is your right.
My father’s grandmother died of cervical cancer. This was at a time when the only sex men could (generally) have was at local brothels. My father disliked his father for being a lousy husband and provider. I now wonder - in light of all this talk of STDs - if he didn’t cheat on the lovely lady as well. She died at 36.
Your father sounds like my sister.
I can’t even bear to listen to someone start to complain about their various ailments without getting a rash! I’d like to burn my father’s Medicare card!
I meant my father’s mother, not grandmother.
If they gave us the truth on risk of breast CA, which they will not, as well as of cervical CA, which they refuse to, then they could focus on people at higher risk.
Then they could schedule these things more efficiently
But they won’t do that. it would bring attention to the high cost to the payers of health care, of promiscuity and it would deter some women from risking their health by being promiscuous
Abortion is a risk factor in breast cancer. It is in the same class of carcinogen as is smoking cigarettes.
Birth control pills are in the same class of cancer causes as are cigarettes
They don’t tell you this
It is not mentioned
A promiscuous lifestyle is a risk factor in cervical cancer
Married women or women who are not sexually active until they are married and then monogamous women are simply in a much different risk category for contracting cancer and other diseases from now what are considered normal women, what used to be considered promiscuous women
Men are not affected by any of this
Women have come such a long way. Not only are they now free to be treated like sex objects, they are treated by the medical community as such.
They are not advised on the risks to their health they are engaging in
But this information is all easily obtained from the Center for disease control
I’ll go one further and say that healthy people don’t need hospitals, doctors, or pharmaceutical industries.
Colonoscopy, saved my life.
Husbands who ae not monogamous bring in a risk factor as well of course and there should be a lot of awareness of this as well in terms of risk of disease and cervical ca he brings home
That brings in the subject of choosing spouses carefully and tgat is also way out of fashion at the moment
It will come back someday after women have had enough if getting so taken advantage of, and of not only allowing it but promoting it
Whoa!
Just a minute. You are getting way ahead
The medical industry is not ready for us to admit how much we really don’t need them
But when they are, they won’t exactly say that. It’ll be like this gradually letting us know what is not necessary
And they won’t tell us how to be healthy. They don’t know how, to begin with. There’s never been money in that for them
Thank you for mentioning all that.
I just read about the abortion breast cancer link.
It would explain the massive rise in breast cancers.
I live next to affluent Marin County in Northern CA. They have an extremely high number of breast cancers. Everyone was wondering why. The water? Air?
It would make sense in that rich families with very liberal tendencies would have high rates of abortions.
But all of this needs to be hushed up. Since we have a war on women, it would not be good to tell these saintly women they might be causing their own problems.
Better to call them victims.
Kind of an odd statement.
I felt completely normal, healthy on no meds, before being diagnosed with cancer.
Healthy and fighting for your life can be divided by a pretty thin line.
I had no idea that the purpose of the PAP smear is to detect HPV, which is a sexually transmitted disease that can lead to cervical cancer. After all these years, I just found that out with the controversy about forced Gardasil vaccination of pre-adolescent girls. If you are not sexually active and are post-menopause, there is no reason to have this test. Cost/Benefit/Risk should all be considered in someone’s health decisions. I recently went on Medicare, and my new doctor ordered a lot of blood work for some base line information. Medicare and my supplement policy covered none of it, as it turned out. So, I paid out $183 for the tests - it was worth it to me to have the information. We have to get real over what should be covered and what services we are willing to pay for out of our pocket. You wouldn’t want to pay for homeowners insurance that covered a broken window or replacement of light bulbs- the cost would be unaffordable for most of us.
I hear ya.
I listened to countless years of my sister’s sorrows. And her unbelievable love for all things medical. It was sickening.
At one point last year I had had enough.
I told her the truth. She didn’t like that. She told me she would never speak to me again. I told her I loved her...that was it. I haven’t heard from her in about a year.
Sad.
Hypos are probably the least likely of neurotics to face their own problem. They are too invested in their own death. I’ve told my father to get psychological help for years but no dice. That’s the irony: shrinks are the only doctors they seem to fear and loathe.
On Long Island - another center of left wing foolishness - they attempted to blame the rise of breast cancer on...electricity.
I’ve known about the connection between that cancer and abortion since the 1970s.
Breast cancer has not abated after all the research
It started skyrocketing in the 19700s with the advent of the pill, which was much more highly carcinogenic in the early days
Long Island women can tell you. But they can’t tell you how a country such as ours cannot come up with an answer
The answer is much too inconvenient for them and for everyone else. And it is what makes the Komondor breast ca group situation such a coup.
The breast cancer awareness group gives to planned parenthood
It throws the wool over a lot
You are correct. My ex-wife is destructive to our family. It is very sad!
I’m truly sorry to hear that. Do you have children with her? Do not let your kids be a slave to her sickness! She will live to 90 and drain them.
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