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Healthy women do not need routine pelvic exams, influential physicians group says [Obamacare Effect]
Washington Post ^ | 7/1/14 | Lenny Bernstein

Posted on 07/01/2014 2:30:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The nation’s second-largest physicians’ organization said Monday that healthy women who are not pregnant do not need routine pelvic exams, a controversial recommendation based on its analysis that, on balance, the manual screening does more harm than good.

The American College of Physicians, which represents 137,000 internal medicine physicians and related specialists, said the diagnostic procedure causes some women discomfort, anxiety, pain and additional medical costs, and may keep some from seeing their doctors. Yet it does little to detect ovarian cancer or other disorders.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; obamacare
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To: SoFloFreeper
The junior league of "Healthy Women Pelvic Exams" followed up with a press release informing the influential doctors that they could "suck it".


21 posted on 07/01/2014 5:11:52 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: miss marmelstein
One doesn’t have to be a supporter of Obamacare to think that we are given endless, pointless tests. Americans just love invasive procedures. How have these driven up the cost of healthcare?

It's a reasonable thing to ask exactly who is gaining the greatest benefit from many routine medical screening procedures. Is it the patient? Or the hospital, imaging center, laboratory, and the doctor?

22 posted on 07/01/2014 5:15:57 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Compare the breast cancer survival statistics in the UK where mammograms don’t start until age 50 and are done only every three years with the US where annual mammograms starting at age 40 are the norm. A woman with breast cancer in the US has a 95% chance of being alive in 5 years. In the UK only 78% survive 5 years. Obamacare death panels are pushing for mammograms every other year starting at age 50 and are telling us it won’t make any “statistical difference” in survival. Ditto for annual PSA tests.


23 posted on 07/01/2014 5:20:57 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Aurorales
If you don’t feel well or something isn’t working right or smelling right, or whatever....then go see someone.

There are some diseases that by the time you don't feel well and show syptoms, it is too late.

A routine annual exam saved my life. I felt fine. Turns out I had cancer.

24 posted on 07/01/2014 5:21:46 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Madam Theophilus

Thank you for the links. I love the title of that book!


25 posted on 07/01/2014 5:30:29 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: meowmeow

I am happy that you are well. Truly.

But you have no idea if that test saved you. Maybe a week later you would have felt symptoms. You will never know.

I know we are being manipulated by medical practitioners. We are scared into and guilted into most testing and into taking pharmaceutical drugs.

Again I am happy you are happy. But your story doesn’t prove the necessity of invasive medical tests for the majority of society.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 5:32:52 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

I believe the cervix itself has very little feeling, so you’re not going to feel anything or even notice anything until the cancer has spread back into the body or has chewed away at it so badly that there are symptoms...by which time it’s way too late.

A pap smear is a very simple test (if somewhat unpleasant!) and not “invasive.” And doctors are not getting wealthy on doing unnecessary pap smears or any of the other dire things Barry “Blame the Doctor” Obama would have you believe.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 5:43:02 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

You do what you want to do.

I’ll do what I want to do.

But I really don’t want to pay for what you want to do.
That is what government type health care does. It makes us all pay for what others want.

I want as little to do with doctors and hospitals as possible. That is my prerogative.
Others feel differently. Whatever floats your boat.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 5:56:41 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Is he obseesive-compulsive too...most hypos, like my ex-wife are!


29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:59:04 AM PDT by gr8eman (A good rant should have the word "crap" in it at least 4 times!)
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To: NCLaw441

my best friend is a GYN and she was telling me that this is the trend, and she disapproves mightily. she said they want question patients as to whether they wear a helmet when riding a bike or if they have a gun in the house etc. rather than examine the patients. IMO ovarian and cervical cancers are killers and I would never go without an annual exam, if I can help it.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 6:03:12 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: The Great RJ

British people tend not to go to the doctor AT ALL, much less annuals. There is a huuuuuge cultural difference between Americans and the British on this subject. I direct everyone to Sarah Lyall’s “Field Guild to the English,” in which she has an hilarious and poignant chapter on English people’s attitudes towards doctors and dentists.


31 posted on 07/01/2014 6:03:18 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: exDemMom

You’re not fighting fair.

You’re using FACTS!

;-)


32 posted on 07/01/2014 6:06:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: xsmommy

Aren’t cervical cancers pretty much caused by STDs? I thought that was the new diagnosis.

Certainly people should do whatever they want in terms of their own healthcare. It’s just - yet again - who will pay for it?


33 posted on 07/01/2014 6:06:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: gr8eman

Yes, he is. Everyone jokes about hypos but they are destructive to our healthcare system and to their families! And, sadly, they all tend to live into their hundreds...irony of ironies.


34 posted on 07/01/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Excellent point.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 6:08:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: livius

Oh...forgot.

When abnormal cervical cells turn into actual cervical cancer (most do not by the way), there are symptoms.
Pain, bleeding, pain during sex, etc.

But of course the medical establishment wants to treat the “problem” before it is actually cancer.
Breast cancers as well.
But “they” don’t want to talk about that. They just want all of us to be scared and willing to let them do whatever they want to us. For a price of course.

I stand by my statement. If you are sick beyond what you can treat at home then see someone. If you feel fine, then live your life.


36 posted on 07/01/2014 6:12:47 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: NCLaw441

I haven’t been to a doctor in 20 years and haven’t been sick a day in all that time. That’s sorta how I know I’m healthy.


37 posted on 07/01/2014 6:13:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yup. Cervical cancers are mostly caused by infections usually caught from a sexual partner.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 6:14:15 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales
Hypos are some of the worst pathological cases in the world. They wreck everything they touch. Doctors eventually find out who their fake patients are but they never counsel these patients. In all the years my father has skipped to his medical tests, not one doctor has confronted him about his obvious mental problems.
39 posted on 07/01/2014 6:17:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Aurorales

So, if you have an STD, you need to probably do an annual. If you don’t, you can skip that test.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 6:18:29 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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