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To: GOPsterinMA

USA: BACK-2-BACK WORLD WAR WINNERS!!!

Wait!!

Think about it. We did not “win” WWI: just tipped the balance a bit at the very end. And when one considers the result, we surely did not attain our stated goal: a “world safe for democracy.” Instead, out of WWI came the Soviet Union, and eventually Hitler. Some victory!

We clearly lost WWII. The winner was Stalin, who conquered Eastern Europe, and just a few years later the communists took over China, the largest country in the world. We may have fought well, but we certainly did not “win” that war.

The United States has not won a major war since the Spanish-American War, which was probably totally unnecessary, anyway. We did win the mini-war in Antigua under Reagan, which was short enough that we could hold out for the victory.

It may come as a shock, but we are not a war-winning country. Certainly not now!!

The clearest victory we ever had was in the war with Mexico. Then we were out-numbered in every single battle, and yet did not lose a single one. But in today’s comparison, we cannot even get the Mexicans to release a lone American soldier from jail. We let them overfly our border, and they “invade” by the millions. We are not even alert enough to stop large busses of illegal immigrants from calmly driving across the boarder full of whole families of illegal aliens. We don’t even have any effective military presence, and not even effective border agents.

And our rulers are mostly jerks.

So please spare me the rah-rah stuff.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 7:29:24 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

“So please spare me the rah-rah stuff.”

Who TF are you? Self appointed content manager? Was my comment directed to you?


20 posted on 06/28/2014 7:35:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: docbnj
We clearly lost WWII. The winner was Stalin, who conquered Eastern Europe, and just a few years later the communists took over China, the largest country in the world. We may have fought well, but we certainly did not “win” that war.

Stephen Ambrose, among others, disagrees with you. He said:

"The big winner in World War II was of course the United States of America. We get much more out of the war than anyone else. It's natural to say that we were suckered, that the Russians won because they got Eastern Europe out of it. But if you look at it with whatever objectivity one can muster about such things, look at what the results of the war were."

The United States came out of the war as the only major participant untouched by bombs or shells, with more food than it could eat, more clothes than it could wear and more steel than it could use, able to economically rebuild both its former major enemies and as the only nation in the world with the atomic bomb to keep the peace.

Now, it can certainly be argued that the United States lost the peace, but as far as winning the war, there's little doubt.

26 posted on 06/28/2014 7:56:45 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: docbnj; Colonel_Flagg; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; Perdogg

“...So please spare me the rah-rah stuff....”

Having had a Doughboy grandfather who crunched mud in the Argonne, and a father who did it all over again twenty five years later, in the Ardenne AND the airborne assault into Germany, plus Marine uncles in the Pacific... Dad also did occupation duty in Germany for two years. As in “Occupied after they surrendered”.

They’d definitely disagree with you.

“...We are not even alert enough to stop large busses of illegal immigrants from calmly driving across the boarder full of whole families of illegal aliens. We don’t even have any effective military presence, and not even effective border agents....”

Everything you posted in that particular paragraph has absolutely NOTHING to do with “WE” - and has everything to do with Obama and his cabal of socialist/communist democrats.


45 posted on 06/28/2014 11:47:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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