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Massachusetts SWAT teams claim they’re private corporations, immune from open records laws
Washington Post ^ | June 26 at 10:27 AM | RADLEY BALKO

Posted on 06/26/2014 11:51:06 AM PDT by maine yankee

As it turns out, a number of SWAT teams in the Bay State are operated by what are called law enforcement councils, or LECs. These LECs are funded by several police agencies in a given geographic area and overseen by an executive board, which is usually made up of police chiefs from member police departments -------------- Some of these LECs have also apparently incorporated as 501(c)(3) organizations. And it’s here that we run into problems. According to the ACLU, the LECs are claiming that the 501(c)(3) status means that they’re private corporations, not government agencies.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; corruption; donutwatch; foia; lec; leosoutofcontrol; militarizedpolice; police; policestate; swat
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To: ModelBreaker

Goose sauce is gander sauce....

Now could we have a SWAT corporation SWATted?


41 posted on 06/26/2014 1:30:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: maine yankee

Okay, if they’re private corporations, not government agencies, then they have no authority to enforce the law, and when they conduct a raid, they are armed burglars and should be treated as such.


42 posted on 06/26/2014 1:36:44 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: maine yankee

If the money comes from taxpayers they are not private.


43 posted on 06/26/2014 2:14:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: will of the people

They can be sued either way.


44 posted on 06/26/2014 2:15:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: maine yankee

Many public officials in state and local governments have been failing at public affairs for a long time, and they don’t care.


45 posted on 06/26/2014 2:26:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: boycott
"Private corporations using public funds? That’s not how it works."

Many private corporations are using either public funds or using local governments to regulate and prevent new competition.


46 posted on 06/26/2014 2:28:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: maine yankee
Not being gØvt agents would explain how it is that they bust into homes without warrants. Gangs can do that GØvt agents who are bound by the Constitution are not allowed that privilege.

"Do I still live in the USA ?"

Maine is going to be a great place to be after the secession vote on June 12, 2018.

47 posted on 06/26/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: maine yankee

Bookmark. This can’t be right....can it?

Why am I surprised???


48 posted on 06/26/2014 2:50:43 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: Kartographer

I had to kill (insert citizen’s name here) because he made a mistake. Now it’s time to erase that mistake.


49 posted on 06/26/2014 3:58:50 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: SampleMan

They can be anything King Zero allows them to be, peasant!/sarc


50 posted on 06/26/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: GregNH; BuckeyeTexan; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; ...
Looks Corporate to me, no?



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51 posted on 06/26/2014 5:29:39 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: maine yankee

Oh? A private corporation? (He chuckles darkly)

Then of course those flash bang grenades have been properly registered as destructive devices and the $200 tax stamp per device paid? No? How bout those automatic weapons?

Oooh. Awkward.


52 posted on 06/26/2014 5:48:47 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: maine yankee

Police dept. funded and sponsored mercenaries. So, if SWAT teams are considered private corporate entities, then they have no protections under law. That makes them a big fat target for other mercenaries like those hired by drug cartels and the like. Who will stop the SWAT from getting SWATted themselves?


53 posted on 06/26/2014 6:17:44 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: maine yankee; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; ...
JBT Ping list


54 posted on 06/26/2014 7:03:55 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: maine yankee

They look so dapper in their lil black outfits.

Pretty tough till they have folks returnin the favor on’em.


55 posted on 06/26/2014 7:10:16 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: maine yankee

Fine. The. They aren’t acting under official authority at all and as such they can be treated as any other armed home invader.

Shoot them dead.


56 posted on 06/26/2014 7:12:03 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: maine yankee

This makes me cry. Along with the other swat story about the women forced to strip during a household raid. For no good reason except to terrorize. I have lost my country and have no place to go.


57 posted on 06/26/2014 7:20:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: maine yankee
If these thug groups are not state or government agencies, by their own assertions,

" LECs are claiming that the 501(c)(3) status means that they’re private corporations, not government agencies."

Then they have no authority to act as law enforcement.

Even if they claim to be agencies of the state, they still have no authority to interact with non-state people (you and I) because we are not employed by the state, and if they claim that they can, where is my paycheck?

Read the law.

58 posted on 06/26/2014 9:39:18 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 (1886)

While acts of a de facto incumbent of an office lawfully created by law and existing are often held to be binding from reasons of public policy, the acts of a person assuming to fill and perform the duties of an office which does not exist de jure can have no validity whatever in law.

An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation as inoperative as though it had never been passed.

59 posted on 06/26/2014 9:43:12 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: G Larry

“..its better to shield their incompetence behind some bogus corporate structure.”

Just like land developers shield themselves by calling each development a different corporation, these SWAT teams could set one up for each raid, with the new guy on the team signing the certificate for the 6478 Main Street Raid, LLC.


60 posted on 06/26/2014 9:46:16 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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