Posted on 06/24/2014 8:42:32 PM PDT by lbryce
Here is an excerpt from a column by Susie Madrak over at CrooksandLiars.com, But Perlstein doesnt mention the big honkin elephant in the room: Namely, at what point does the federal government literally go to war with its own citizens? Because were not talking about bank robbers here, were talking about (mostly) non-criminal cranks scofflaws and political malcontents. So what line has to be crossed in the good old U.S. of A. before we start mowing them down to make our point? Because you cant talk about the Bundy ranch without talking about Ruby Ridge, and Waco. So heres the political corner into which weve painted ourselves. Do we have the ATF and BLM agents roll up in armored tanks? Do we use drone strikes? I can see the administrations reluctance to have that confrontation after all, its not as if gun control advocates were flooding the White House switchboard, screaming to take them out! And then we do have the militia types all over the country, just waiting for an excuse to start their own local uprising. These assholes want a civil war so bad, they can taste it.
Um, first off, what the hell is a gun nut exactly? Is someone who agrees with you on all of your other political issues but happens to have a collection of 10+ firearms a gun nut? Is the Libertarian who owns a handgun for self defense a gun nut? Is it only people who disagree with your other political stances?
Second, most gun owners are not sitting around waiting for the second civil war. Most gun owners are people you interact with every single day and you never have any idea that they have a gun safe at home and enjoy going to the shooting range on weekend.
(Excerpt) Read more at gunssavelives.net ...
How much of a chance would a bunch of ganstas with 9s and AKs have against a group of farm boys with scoped 30-08s and experience hunting deer.
ON the farm boys’ turf. Because if there is such a confrontation it won’t be because the farm boys got dumb and went into urban areas looking for trouble.
LOL’s - knew it.
How does my correspondent "know" that his neighbors would murder him if they had guns? He doesnt. What he was really saying was that if he had a gun, he might murder his neighbors if he had a bad day, or if they took his parking space, or played their stereos too loud. This is an example of what mental health professionals call projection unconsciously projecting ones own unacceptable feelings onto other people, so that one doesnt have to own them.Raging Against Self Defense: A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality, By Sarah Thompson, M.D.
Ping! Scary talk by liberals about eliminating “gun nuts”!
Here's one...
I was being rhetorical but hey, nice picture of something that goes on a gun. Or something.
“Ill bet we couldnt take her vibrator away unless it was pried from her ... etc.”
How many vibrators must a lesbian own to be called a “Vibrator Nut”? She probably owns stock in the company that makes Duracell batteries.
I've seen (shudder) her photo, she looks more like a 120/240 VAC or diesel kind of user. Modified Sawzall or two under the bed.
Susie must be that “big honkin elephant”.
LOL!
The source article starts with a recent quote from liberal commentator Rick Perlstein, “’Here is a truth so fundamental that it should be self-evident: When legitimately constituted state authority stands down in the face of armed threats, the very foundation of the republic is in danger.’” Mr. Perlstein & Ms. Madrak are both alluding to the stand-off at the Bundy ranch. Mr. Perlstein states that he is a historian. However, if the American colonists had taken Mr. Perlstein’s approach, there never would have been an American Revolution or a subsequently free America.
Next, she asks “at what point does the federal government literally go to war with its own citizens?” The question that our Founders in America were concerned with is at what point do the people have to go to war with the government in order to ensure their God-given rights and liberties. The Bill of Rights was created to ensure that the government cannot take away certain foundational rights without due process under the Constitution.
What is Ms. Madrak’s idea of due process under the Constitution? “mowing them down”, “armored tanks”, “drone strikes”! Nevertheless, she refers to gun owners as nuts. I am glad that she is not starting her own militia!
Ms. Madrak talks about Ruby Ridge and Waco; however, the people that went to the Bundy ranch were concerned that Cliven Bundy would not become another casualty of reckless Federal tactical teams while trying to protect his livelihood.
The Bureau of Land Management in Nevada, who was overseen by a relative of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, wanted to take Mr. Bundy’s cattle effectively taking his livelihood so that Harry Reid could move a Chinese solar company on that grazing land. Needless to say that this Chinese solar company is obviously lining Harry Reid’s pockets. And Ms. Madrak is posting her article on a website called “crooksandliars.com”! Too bad she does not know a crook when she sees one.
Then Ms. Madrak says “And then we do have the militia types all over the country, just waiting for an excuse to start their own local uprising.” Right now their are groups of citizens (aka militias) helping local law enforcement officers to find foreign citizens who are illegally crossing our southern border. And why is this necessary? Our Federal government made arrangements in January for thousands of immigrants to come to America, but failed to properly prepare for their arrival or notify anyone else; so now, all of our Federal border patrol agents are tied up providing for these folks’ basic needs because these immigrants have no where to go.
Then Ms. Madrak finishes with a familiar refrain for conservatives, “These assholes want a civil war so bad, they can taste it.” That is not what anybody wants. Here is a few things that I would like:
1. A government that works within the legal constraints of the Constitution.
2. A Federal government that does only what it was designed to do via the framework laid out in our Constitution.
3. A Federal government that respects the Tenth Amendment by leaving all issues not delegated to the Federal government in the Constitution to the states. These issues would include things like healthcare, welfare & poverty, retirement savings, education, employment-related issues & housing.
4. A government that does not pass laws so that politicians like Harry Reid can empower themselves and make sweetheart deals for themselves at the expense of hard working Americans.
5. A government that does not use taxation as a political weapon by picking winners and losers.
6. A government that does not see my hard-earned money as their money.
7. Politicians who love individual liberty and believe people can solve their problems without a mind-boggling number of laws.
8. Instead of focusing on inanimate objects like guns when we talk about acts of violence, how about we try focusing on people that commit those acts making them accountable rather than making their guns accountable? If we spent half as much time considering mentally illness control & criminal control as we do worrying about gun control, guns in the hands of criminals would be substantially reduced.
With all the government abuses we see going on these days, I am truly perplexed that Ms. Madrak places such overwhelming power to eliminate her political opponents in the hands of the state; but then, that is the modern liberal for you. The state is always right just like the communists said.
Heck, if I was a farm boy, I’d point them to people in my area who hate guns.
Of course it never occured to the author that a police state doing this would have to hire true gun nuts to go about shooting each other.
What has to survive is the right language. It is possible to win in war.
Perlstein would have an issue if anyone called a nazi bad names..
Toxic adiposis exhibited in dull witted hoplophobe..
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