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Lerner e-mails likely gone forever, IRS claims, as hard drive was “thrown away”
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Posted on 06/19/2014 8:15:20 AM PDT by chessplayer

The IRS announced last night — after a subpoena from House Oversight chair Darrell Issa — that Lois Lerner’s hard drive had been either “thrown away” or recycled, which means at least for the moment that none of her interagency e-mails can be recovered:

“IT experts have weighed in and said yes — we can get those” emails, said Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.) earlier Wednesday.

The latest news suggests such professionals may never get the chance to try again — and the IRS has even said its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011. But this is only likely to further enrage Republicans, who are fuming over the matter and suspect Washington officials drove the selective scrutiny.

Without backups or the drives, those communications have been lost. Unless Lerner testifies, which she has so far refused to do, or unless the House subpoenas all executive-branch e-mails, they’re likely lost forever.


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21 posted on 06/19/2014 8:26:22 AM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: chessplayer

They are making fools out of this nation of fools.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 8:26:29 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Darksheare

Nixon was told to burn his White House recordings. He should have.

Watergate pales in insignificance compared to this in-your-face democrat crooks.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 8:26:45 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: IYAS9YAS

The email data, by law, is required to be backed up on redundant servers, and has been, for years.


This admin. doesn’t follow the law.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 8:27:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Your move I$$A. CONgre$$ and the IR$ GE$TAPO. We pay these deceivers…why?

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

Check$ and Balance$ BUMP! $ee $omething, $ay $omething ALERT!


25 posted on 06/19/2014 8:27:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Darksheare
First it was crashed.
Then reused, now it is “thrown away”.
What next, sold to China?
Found in the bottom of a White House closet with Rose Law Firm records that have curiously been scrubbed?

Yeah, that's the ticket!


26 posted on 06/19/2014 8:29:14 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: chessplayer
and the IRS has even said its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011.

Bull....I have had several hard drive crashes that I have sent out for data recovery...to the point where the drives where clicking. I've never had under a 95% recovery rate. The fact that the IRS is claiming they got a 0% recovery from someone in Lerner's position is almost impossible unless her crash was the result of somebody taking a sledgehammer to her hard drive.

When a hard drive really crashes it is usually a result of things like the motor, board or other parts that serve to spin the platter itself. In most cases not involving actual physical damage, the platter remains intact while the motor around it fails. This provides you with the opportunity to remove the platter, place it in a new drive enclosure, and pull the old data off onto an external drive.

This can all be done in the private sector for about $1800.

Now, even if the drive were considered "unrecoverable" at the time, the fact that historical and public information had been stored there would be enough to at least merit holding onto the damaged drive in case advances in technology would one day allow the data to be recovered. They conveniently threw the drive away. This is a coverup.
27 posted on 06/19/2014 8:31:11 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Salvavida

The hard drive isn’t the issue.

If Person A sends an e-mail to Person B in another company, then the e-mail can be recovered from:

Person A’s computer.
Company A’s server.
Company A’s backup of Person A’s e-mail box.
Company A’s backup of Company A’s server.
E-mail server nodes along the way of transfer from Company A to Company B.
Backups of e-mail server nodes along the way of transfer from Company A to Company B.
Person B’s computer.
Company B’s server.
Company B’s backup of Person B’s e-mail box.
Company B’s backup of Company B’s server.

This idea that somehow an e-mail can be completely lost is ludicrous and any politician who claims it should lose their job for basic stupidity.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 8:31:41 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Eclipse, the sequel to Bright Horizons is out! Get it now!)
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To: chessplayer

As I posted in an earlier thread, the IRS now claims multiple email accounts are gone, 5-6 people in different offices at the IRS. These were all stored on a single hard drive without RAID redundancy in 2009-11? Is this anywhere in a light year of possible?

This odor is ordure!


29 posted on 06/19/2014 8:32:10 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: MaxMax
"The FBI is controlled by the Obama administration. We all know how ruthless they are. So what do you think the FBI will do about any investigation?"

EXACTLY

You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.

/Bastiat

30 posted on 06/19/2014 8:32:45 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: NormsRevenge

I cringe when I see “incompetent” still used to describe BO. It’s exactly the opposite! He has been deliberate in tearing down our country. He told us what he was going to do and he’s done a damn good job!


31 posted on 06/19/2014 8:33:20 AM PDT by PeachyKeen
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To: stanne
And still has a 40% approval rating.

40+ percent underclass takers who only care about the free stuff they can get.

32 posted on 06/19/2014 8:33:34 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: chessplayer

“Lerner emails likely gone forever”

Reminds me of Hillary saying disappointedly “We’ll probably never know what happended to Vince Foster” (so let’s drop it)


33 posted on 06/19/2014 8:34:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: PeachyKeen

I hear ya,, his minions are incompetent and drones, he is conniving, a imam on a mission.


34 posted on 06/19/2014 8:35:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: chessplayer

BREAKING NEWS: This just in... the hard drive has been FOUND!

It is somewhere near the Brooklyn Bridge. Don’t know where on the bridge, but now that we know this, we just have to buy the bridge.

Great news! The lost/recycled/thrown-out hard drive with Lerner emails is on the Brooklyn Bridge!


35 posted on 06/19/2014 8:35:03 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Too bad Romney is such a weak personality, he could’ve stuck with his 47% argument and done just fine


36 posted on 06/19/2014 8:35:31 AM PDT by stanne
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To: SES1066
As I posted in an earlier thread, the IRS now claims multiple email accounts are gone, 5-6 people in different offices at the IRS. These were all stored on a single hard drive without RAID redundancy in 2009-11?

Nope. I believe they are claiming that they had seven...YES SEVEN..individual computer crashes in that resulted in completely unrecoverable data in that time frame. The news media is avoiding this because the chances of experiencing seven unrecoverable hard drive crashes to seven people involved in the same type of communications is so astronomical, it's impossible. Winning the lottery twice in two days would be more likely.
37 posted on 06/19/2014 8:35:35 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Darksheare
What next, sold to China? Found in the bottom of a White House closet with Rose Law Firm records that have curiously been scrubbed?

Behind the copier at the Los Alamos Labs.

-PJ

38 posted on 06/19/2014 8:36:14 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Herodes

It does not matter if the hard drives were thrown away. The emails will be found on the servers. They don’t throw those away.


What bothers me about that is that there hasn’t been a flood of computer experts claiming they can still be recovered. That tells me they CAN’T be recovered.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 8:36:21 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

This so much bullsh!t that you could fertilize the entire continent of Asia’s fields for decades..................


40 posted on 06/19/2014 8:36:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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