You cut right through it all to expose how two centuries of jurisprudence has, by accretion after accretion, contrived to stand the whole purpose of our government on its head.
Posted on 06/17/2014 7:43:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler
President Barack Obama has acted so unlawfully that he 'probably' wouldn't survive an impeachment vote in the House of Representatives, Republican Rep. Lou Barletta told a radio host on Monday.
'He’s just absolutely ignoring the Constitution, and ignoring the laws and ignoring the checks and balances,' the Pennsylvania lawmaker told News Radio 910 WSBA personality Gary Sutton yesterday.
'The problem is, what do you do?' Barletta continued. 'For those that say impeach him for breaking the laws or bypassing the laws — could that pass in the House? It probably could.'
'Is the majority of the American people in favor of impeaching the president? I’m not sure about that.'
'I don't think so,' the Pennsylvania radio host can be heard telling Barletta in audio of their conversation captured by Buzzfeed's Andrew Kaczyinski.
Barletta made the comments during a discussion on illegal immigration after Sutton argued that the president wasn't 'faithfully executing the laws of this country.'
'Well we have a president that has taken this to a new level,' Barletta said of Obama's actions before explaining how he thinks impeachment proceeding would hypothetically play out in the House.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I believe the Congressman quoted here knows that very thing himself. In fact, I’m sure he does. And so do a lot of other members of Congress know that same thing. I was posting here during the time Clinton was going through this process ... and I saw EXACTLY how the vote broke down along party lines - even though there was an absolute violation there. It didn’t make one bit of difference when it came to one’s own political party.
So, what everyone learned, and learned very clearly ... was that you don’t start the process unless you have the votes to “finish the process”! And we know how absolutely “partisan” the Senate is.
Maybe we’ll have the votes to “finish the process” after the next election ...but without being able to “finish it” - you don’t “start it”.
That’s exactly the same thing that goes on inside a District Attorney’s office ... if they don’t think they can actually “finish the process” (which is get a jury to convict), then they won’t even “start the process”.
You cut right through it all to expose how two centuries of jurisprudence has, by accretion after accretion, contrived to stand the whole purpose of our government on its head.
No ... the KEY here, to this problem is to simply “get the votes” in the Senate. We do have a November election coming up. That one election - alone - will tell you whether we will ever get Obama out of office through this Constitutional process.
If we get the votes this November, it will work. If we don’t get the votes, it will never work.
Contact your Rep. Keep it short, simple and clear: the crimes and incompetence are prolific (from “Fast & Furious” to abandoning Iraq), 2.5 years is too long to wait out his term, and he needs be removed from power - legally, rapidly.
Apart from a smoking gun revealing the personal commission of an indisputably high crime, Obama will never be impeached, much less convicted. The Clinton impeachment process demonstrated that the procedure is not a legal but a political one and, to peel one more layer off the onion, political processes are conditioned by the culture.
The culture was conditioned by the media and the media was on a mission from God to install a liberal African-American in the White House. The media mounted a juggernaut during the election of 2008 to accomplish just that. In their rush neither the media nor the Democratic Party cared that they were not installing a liberal but in fact an African-American who was a communist. Skin pigment trumped everything.
Most of America was unaware of Obama's Communist affiliations in 2008 and remain unaware of them today. It was the job of the media to reveal those affiliations but they would not because they were committed to a "higher cause." The Republican opposition would not do so because they were thoroughly intimidated. Both institutions failed the nation.
The Republican failure has visited baleful consequences on the nation ever since. We conservatives on FreeRepublic were fully aware of Obama's radical biography and many of us declared in 2008 that the only way juggernaut could be stopped was to "morally destroy" Barack Obama by revealing him to be the communist he was and still is. Republican timidity resulted in two elections of Barack Obama and there is no reason to conclude that Republican timidity will not extend to occasions to impeach Barack Obama. Indeed, the Republicans have failed effectively to oppose even those policies most repugnant to Republican principles (assuming Rino establishment Republicans still have principles) because they continue to fear being branded racists merely for opposing Obama.
However much the media is becoming privately disenchanted with the man they put in the White House, especially with his personal deficiencies, they cannot and will not permit the presidency of the first African-American to be discredited. Obama is fully aware of this and knows that his best chance to save off a Republican sweep in November is to bait the Republicans into a battle with the media. Republicans are powerless to impeach Obama except in the most egregious circumstances and they know it.
When Senator McCain declined to expose Obama for in 2008, indeed when McCain affirmatively lauded candidate Obama as a fit person for the White House, he foreclosed all possibilities of exposing Obama for his radical, anti-constitutional, even anti-American convictions. After that, it became impossible to put the toothpaste back in the tube besides there was a general feeling that Obama's past was irrelevant, after all, the man has been elected.
This whole dismaying story is but one more example of Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics: all politics in America is not local but ultimately racial.
Unless the Republican Party can find both the courage and the means to break free of the threat of being branded racist, nothing will happen to Obama, certainly not impeachment, amnesty for millions and millions of illegal aliens will remain inevitable, conservatism will ultimately be swamped under a demographic and a propaganda juggernaut.
The motto above Nathan Bedford's avatar enjoins us: "attack, repeat, attack!"… Admiral Bull Halsey.
There’s really only one solution to this that will work “in practice” (i.e., “real life”). And that is to get the votes in the Senate this November. If we get the votes, it will work. If we don’t get the votes in November, it will never work, no matter how many letters you write or how good they are or how many phone calls you make or how many faxes you send.
The “November elections” are the key!
You’re right ... it’s not legal, it’s political.
That’s why I say we’ll find out if this can really be done, from the outcome of the November elections. If the GOP has the votes in the Senate after the November elections, then it can be done politically.
I dont get too excited about it with the Idiot “impeachment insurance” Biden waiting in the wings.
But I agree with you, we should try to get them in place so they, as well as Obama, can be held to account.
THEN FILE IT!!!
Until the House obeys their responsibility to the rule of law and arrests Lois Lerner and Eric Holder for contempt of Congress, they can go cry a river. They are the problem, not the solution.
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The threat of it removed Nixon - over an issue that is peanuts compared to the crimes committed by Obama and his entire lawless regime.
But I don’t want to see impeachment. I want to see trials for the crimes committed. Everything Obama has ever done or intended to do is material aid to the enemies of this nation. By even taking the oath of office he BROKE the oath of office because he was illegally installed as a foreign enemy combatant specifically to destroy this country and her Constitution.
Whoever has the responsibility of arresting a POTUS before he can wage open war against America needs to step up to the plate.
I should explain what I meant when I say I don’t want to see impeachment. I say that for the same reasons you’re arguing. The politicians are too crooked to be regular jurors so all they will ever do is rubber-stamp and pat on the back their own buddies. None of them stand for the rule of law. They are ALL “respecters of persons” - letting the powerful get away with literal murder (and lots of other crimes).
It’s bad enough that politicians are exempt from having real justice applied to them because state AG’s have to butt-kiss the political powers-that-be in order to get elected, and their time in office is payment of the debt owed to get them there. But to have the survival of the nation dependent on people who have absolutely zero integrity, absolutely zero interest in the rule of law and justice, and zero accountability for their own lawlessness.... is more than I can stomach. By saying that impeachment is the “political solution” to lawlessness in the executive branch, the courts admit that it’s not JUSTICE; it is politics. And that’s just plain disgusting to me.
Some have said that impeachment and conviction is the only way that a sitting POTUS can be subject to law enforcement. But I think somebody had said that if the POTUS actually attempts to carry out an attack against America, there is somebody who is authorized to arrest him. If that is the case, then that is what needs to happen. Very, very soon, because Obama’s attacks on America and aid to our enemies are getting more and more blatant.
Probably the more realistic route is to get enough in the Senate who would be willing to convict based on the evidence rather than simply being political hacks. Unfortunately the big cities have a lot of voters who only see the color of a person’s skin, and Obama’s got the right color of skin to have a signed blank check from those people. Those people will never seek real justice.
I do agree with Ray76, though, that the crimes committed by Obama are a whole different level than what Clinton eventually was impeached for. Fast & Furious, Benghazi, Extortion 17, IRS-gate, NSA-gate, Bergdahl-swap-gate, etc aren’t about - tee hee - consentual sex. They are about innocent people being killed for Obama’s political goal of destroying this country. They are about America’s enemies gaining in strength all over the world and America being left out to dry. They are about nobody in the world being able to trust us as an ally. They are about undoing all the protections built into our Constitution. If impeachment would mean that the evidence is what would be on what little news the dumbed-down American people watched, we might at least find out if America has enough brain cells to survive.
Talk,talk,talk. He’s been a thorn in the side of America for the past 6 years, and we’ve heard this impeachment stuff at least 60 times. Nobody will do anything, so why even speculate? The Senate certainly wouldn’t do anything even if the articles made it through the House.
This guy is crying about what the people think? Thats rich. They never cared before.
And if the did their job and INFORMED people instead of covering Barry’s ass, there just might be a lot more Americans on board with the idea.
Ya think?
There is no point in a House impeachment when the Senate is controlled by the lawless democrats. Impeachment would be a circus that would endanger conservative Senate gains without impeding the corrupt, anti-American thug in our White House. We need to focus on stopping Obama whenever his agenda harms our country, which is pretty close to 100% of the time, and the best option there is obstruction followed by the 2014 election. We also need to use the power of the purse more aggressively, but that’s a different topic.
Good reminder of “how to impeach a tyrant.”
How about this? How about we stop the “nothing’s gonna happen” meme that dominates this board? I am sure it makes some feel smart and smug. But, that steady stream of demoralizing comments, thread after thread, day after day, is actually aiding and abetting.
Someone correct me and defend the strategy of constantly declaring defeat in the midst of the battle.
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