Posted on 06/17/2014 4:24:37 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
The names, ages, and causes of death of all 796 children who died at St. Mary's Home ... in Tuam, Co. Galway from 1925 to 1960 have been published in full, below.
The list is long, and reading it is a horrifying heartbreaking experience - though nowhere near as horrifying as the short lives of the children who died, or as heartbreaking as the sheer number of lost little lives.
When she began her research, Catherine Corless ... the local historian who set out to uncover the truth about the bones buried at the site of the former Mother and Baby Home, had no idea the number of deaths would be that high.
As she told Irish Central's Cahir O'Doherty ... she was simply looking for records - something neither the Order of the Bon Secours nuns, who ran the home, nor the Western Health Board, were able to help her with.
"Eventually I had the idea to contact the registry office in Galway. I remembered a law was enacted in 1932 to register every death in the country.
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(Excerpt) Read more at irishcentral.com ...
Efforts to find burial records at local government offices by Corless apparently turned up nothing.
Death records were apparently then cross-referenced by Corless with local cemetery records - and TWO of the children were discovered nearby. Two...
1.) Where are the missing children buried? They simply didn't ascend into heaven bodily, right?
2.) If the children were indeed baptized, then surely someone can supply the baptismal records.
3.) If the children were indeed buried on consecrated ground, (baptized or not), then surely someone can supply the locations for all areas where consecrated ground was nearby.
4.) If the septic tank story has gotten in the way going forward, then reverse engineer this and supply everything needed in #2 and #3 to get to answering #1.
5.) If the children were indeed buried on consecrated ground, then why was the Tuam site consecrated in 1975?
By applying the laws of logic in 1-5, over the next two years or so there is no reason why this cannot be solved and the location for the missing children put to rest once and for all:
Thus, no need for Ad Hominem during the next two years or so against those who may try to discover the answer to #1.
Geeting somwhere it seems...
Everyone needs to/should read the article before commenting.
Thanks.
You care so much you’re going over to help care for orphans, right?
Note that we're getting contradictory messages about this issue.
FR: Forbes: Why That Story About Irish Babies In A Septic Tank Is A Hoax
Take a look at the charts at the bottom of this article. Child mortality rates for the twentieth century.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4838a2.htm
This story has already been debunked.
Define “debunked.”
There are still skeletal remains in that structure known to residents as a septic tank on the grounds of the former Bon Secours home in Tuam.
Irish Ordinance Survey Maps going back to 1840 show this structure repeatedly over the years and call it a septic tank. It fell into disuse in 1938 when a new sewer system came into use.
There are still 796 children who died at that home, from infants to age 9, for whom there is no record of burial.
There was a large cemetery across the road from the home. They’re not in there.
He knows that its a hoax and continues to post these.
More self-righteous hating today? Yawn.
If Irish Catholics trying to get to the bottom of this are self-righteous haters, then I guess so. That’s who I’ve been citing.
There was a large cemetery across the road from the home. They’re not in there.
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I don’t see anything unusual ... a cemetery would be expensive ... you have the land ,,, you have the gravediggers ,, you have the headstone... even at cost this is taking bread out of the mouths of the living ... the nuns were dirt poor.
As to the deaths I looked at the list ,, looks like I would expect ,, earlier deaths came quicker ... after 1950ish you see more lingering illnesses where the children failed to vanquish a disease but had a better shot at living due to antibiotics...
Maybe it was a septic tank years ago ,,, it wouldn’t be like today where a single piece cement tank is trucked in .. this had to be built on-site ,, probably from brick... as long as it was shoveled out and hosed down before being put to use as a “catacomb” for tiny bodies I’m OK with it ... Once again it’s a money thing ... as long as respect was shown for the dead I just don’t have a problem.
That actually is the problem, respect shown for the dead or the lack of it.
That actually is the problem, respect shown for the dead or the lack of it.
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Regarding this story I haven’t seen anything published that addresses that subject ,,, I myself would be OK with being buried in that way if respect was shown ,,, buildings are repurposed all the time. I cannot imagine the nuns not being respectful.
That actually is the problem, respect shown for the dead or the lack of it.
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Regarding this story I haven’t seen anything published that addresses that subject ,,, I myself would be OK with being buried in that way if respect was shown ,,, buildings are repurposed all the time. I cannot imagine the nuns not being respectful.
The accusation is that children of unwed mothers were held in very low regard, born in sin, were therefore not baptized and would not have been permitted to be buried in consecrated ground because of this. The order that ran the home hasn’t said much, other than that the old records were turned over to county authorities. They’ve stated that they’d cooperate fully, but that’s the only direct reference that has been made.
You completely fail to understand the leftism among the Irish — you apparently believe that running articles that are the equivalent of what Code Pink would publish here about the u.s. are somehow valid because the authors were born in Ireland and raised Catholic. That does not make them true Christians or immune from hating the Catholic church, as a screeching minority on the left do in Ireland, just like in this country. You cannot be born into any Christian religion. You either accept Christ into your heart and work positively for change, or you don’t; and you masquerade as a Christian while doing everything you can to spew hate.
Wanting to get to the bottom of this does not constitute “hate.” If you’ve got a problem with the truth, then it’s you who has a problem, correct? The Archbishop Of Dublin has strongly advocated this governmental inquiry, which is now ongoing. What we have is Irish Catholics wanting to get to the bottom of this, the Irish church supporting it, irreligious people trying to make hay of it and misguided traditional Catholics outside of Ireland attempting to deflect the whole thing to make it go away because they perceive it to be an embarrassment to the church. I have friends in Ireland, they’re Catholic in and around Dublin. They want the light of day shone upon this and to make it right as best that can be managed. I agree with them. I don’t agree with trying to sweep it under the rug. That hasn’t turned out so well in the past, now has it?
Nope. Look it up. I won’t do your (hateful) homework for you.
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