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Congress's Iraq Vets Helplessly Watch Their Gains Lost
National Journal ^
| June 13, 2014
| Clara Ritger
Posted on 06/13/2014 4:11:22 AM PDT by Biggirl
Americans are tired of war. For the 17 members of Congress who served in Iraq, that means watching helplessly as the cities they fought for fall once more to extremists. Militants believed to be associated with al-Qaida overtook Mosul, the second-largest city in Iraq, on Tuesday. The group then seized Tikrit, hometown of former President Saddam Hussein, on Wednesday.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; iraq; iraqivets; iraqvets; oif
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To: cripplecreek
In WWII we didnt fight to force Germany and Japan to negotiate, we fought to defeat and pacify them.Correct, but recently I have been reading alot about the Rise of Communism in Eastern Europe, The United States Practically GAVE them everything EAST OF THE VISTULA RIVER~!!!!
And FDR seemed just fine with it.
Do you now who negotiated the Yalta Conference that absorbed much of the East into the USSR and made Poland a Communist State?
Alger Hiss.
We are lucky we aren't dealing with a North-Japan, South-Japan scenario.
U.S. Betrayal of it's Allies goes back a Long way.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:10:29 AM PDT
by
KC_Lion
(Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
To: Biggirl
I weep for this country. Even if we do take the Senate and then the Presidency in 2016, I fear it will be too late.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:12:14 AM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
(Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
To: originalbuckeye
“I weep for this country. Even if we do take the Senate and then the Presidency in 2016, I fear it will be too late.”
I am very concerned that even with the taking of the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016, we are in for a long, long haul of rebuilding work to do.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:15:03 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: KC_Lion
FDR was weak and Stalin knew it just like Obama is weak and Putin knows it.
Obama is worse because his weakness is intentional.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:17:35 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin.)
To: Alberta's Child
The second we took the control over our troops from the Generals and turned it over to the politicians we started losing.
And now we are where we are because of it.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:26:26 AM PDT
by
airborne
(My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
To: cripplecreek
And now we refuse to use our air superiority because we’re afraid of what our enemy will say.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:27:48 AM PDT
by
airborne
(My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
To: airborne
The second we took the control over our troops from the Generals and turned it over to the politicians we started losing. That happened when the U.S. Constitution was ratified back in the 1780s, so I don't buy that explanation at all. The idea of a large standing military conducting campaigns halfway around the world has no place in a nation of free citizens.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:30:17 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: Alberta's Child
Iraq is turning into what Iraq was always going to be. The leadership of the U.S. has a lot to answer for, since the thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars was all for nothing. So you're agreeing that there is nothing the U.S. could have done to prevent what's going on now?
To: Biggirl
The last time the Republican Party controlled the White House and both Houses of Congress we got a Medicare prescription drug entitlement, "No Child Left Behind" Federal education programs, the Patriot Act, and ethanol fuel mandates.
I wouldn't hold out any hope for the 2014 and 2016 elections, if I were you.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:39:17 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: DoodleDawg
Short of bombing the entire country into a smoking ruins, yes.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:40:03 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: DoodleDawg
History is littered with proof that you can’t simply draw lines on a map across tribal boundaries and expect it to work.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:41:00 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: Biggirl
My wish is that zer0 watches helplessly as his health care is disassembled
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:44:21 AM PDT
by
reefdiver
(Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
To: Alberta's Child
You don’t think the “rules of engagement” the politicians have forced on the commanders in the field have any bearing on success or failure?
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:44:27 AM PDT
by
airborne
(My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
To: Alberta's Child
While I am very happy about the recent Virigina shocking primary win of Dave Brat, we are in for a long, long, war in taking this country back.
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:48:16 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: yldstrk
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posted on
06/13/2014 5:52:07 AM PDT
by
ThePatriotsFlag
("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
To: Alberta's Child
History is littered with proof that you cant simply draw lines on a map across tribal boundaries and expect it to work. Especially in that region of the world.
To: Alberta's Child
al-Qaeda can operate freely in Pakistan because the U.S. wont eff with a country that already has its own nuclear arsenal. What about the predator drone strikes against Al-Qaeda in Pakistan?
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posted on
06/13/2014 12:25:21 PM PDT
by
sr4402
To: airborne
You dont think the rules of engagement the politicians have forced on the commanders in the field have any bearing on success or failure? No. The real problem started before any U.S. military personnel were even on the ground over there. What exactly constitutes "success" or "failure" in a military campaign that is described as something so nebulous and idiotic as a "War on Terror?"
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posted on
06/13/2014 4:10:50 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: sr4402
I’m referring to al-Qaeda sympathizers in the highest reaches of the Pakistani government.
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posted on
06/13/2014 4:11:41 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: Alberta's Child
“War on Terror” . . . .
A catchy phrase dreamed up by some politician.
You’re kind of making my point for me.
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posted on
06/13/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT
by
airborne
(My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
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