Posted on 06/04/2014 12:34:46 AM PDT by Cololeo
Are we at war? I remember the Congress voting to authorize GWB to go into Iraq, but Ill be hornswaggled if I can remember any authorization for Afghanistan. If not, how can Bergdhal be a POW? Im confused. Can anyone explain the nitty-gritty here?
On a related note, that's why the five dudes at Gitmo were never classified as POWs, either. They weren't uniformed soldiers and they weren't even citizens of the countries where they were captured.
Lastly, I'd say the answer to your question is No. The U.S. government hasn't formally declared war in decades. Bergdahl is not a POW because we're allegedly fighting a "War on Terror," according to the previous @sshole in the White House ... and "terror" never captures any soldiers.
No we’re not at war. Our military is.
“So, were not technically at war, but ARE at war for the consumption of the masses?”
Wrong, the United States is most definitely in an official and overt state of war against the “nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks....”
“Has anyone reconciled our state of conflict with an actual Declaration of War?”
The simplistic claims that an official declaration of war is necessary for the United States or another sovereign state to be engaged in a state of war are utterly wrong and without any valid basis in law, history, or morality. A formal declaration of war is appropriate and used only in certain narrow circumstances under the U.S. Constitution and under international law.
“The reason I ask all of this is that many are not even aware of what actual war is, nor understand how we get there. War is serious, where war is political theater.”
That is precisely the problem, “many are not even aware of what actual war is”, and many do not want to know what the definition of war is even when offered the opportunity to learn.
“So how do we define a Prisoner of Conflict?”
A prisoner of war is a “Prisoner of Conflict”, a hostage is a “Prisoner of Conflict”, and a number of other priosoners and detainees are also a “Prisoner of Conflict”.
This apparent deserter was reportedly not listed by the U.S. Army as a prisoner of war (POW). What his status and circumstances were while detained by the Taliban is yet to be determined.
Those comments are false propaganda from the Russians and are completely contrary to reality.
Abandonment of Ukraine legislature by paid off politicos was real time. They walked out with cash in the pockets - one brawl and then they fled - it was a group thing and the legislators gave up way before they needed to leave - looked very suspicious in real time.
Film of entry in to estate of former president was broadcast realtime. He lived like king tut!!
Everything was visible on broadcast internet - most in Russian and Ukrainian and some with english subtitles- the hospital and food cafeterias set up in the buildings along Maidan square were shown in real time. The millions of dollars of supplies provided by NGO's funded by the state dept were displayed in real time. Fullyy equipped emergency medical rooms, ammo, guns, all kinds of supplies were trucked into the Maidan Square. This is not propaganda when you see it for real with your own two eyes, broadcast live.
Ukrainians don't want to be moslems. Europe is falling to Islam and is not what it was 10 years ago. Even the Ukrainian Orthodox church is under pressure from the new world order to separate from Russian Control.
Russian Propaganda doesn't begin to cover what is going on. We are in a proxy war and are fighting for Islam. The US Govt fights for Allah, apparently.
“It’s not propaganda when you watch it in realtime on the internet. Maidan revolution was realtime. Watching policemen with no guns being picked off by snipers paid for by US cash funneled to Ukraine and firebombs in realtime was disgusting.”
There are two kinds of propaganda: true propaganda and false propaganda. You are disseminating false propaganda. The false prpaganda you are disseminating is practically boilerplate text from the Russian state propaganda services. The protests began on the Maidan in the first place in response to the Yanukovych administration’s kidnapping, torture, murder, and intimidation of citizens and journalists opposing the political corruption and criminal acts of oppression. The protestors generally opposed and avoided violence, with the exception of a few extremsts such as some Right Sector participants, until the Yanukovych administration ordered some of its police units, particularly the Berkut riot police, to inflict violence upon the protestors. This violent assault on the protestors ultimately culminated in the Berkut and some other police using sniper rifles to kill unarmed protestors. A few protestors fought back with Molotov cocktails and a few firearms, but nothing on the scale of the military force of the Berkut.
The former head of the Ukrainian security services, SBU, was a Russian espionage agent as a holdover from the Soviet KGB intelligence services era. President Yanukovych was also an agent of Russia’s intelligence services working as a collaborator for the Russians to subvert the Ukrainian government and socity. Putin aided Yanukovych and his allies with their oligarchic aspiratons, just as Putin and Yletsin had done so in Russia. Putin and yanukovych used the Russian controlled Ukrainian Berkut riot police and Ukrainian SBU security service to commit the vote fraud that put Yanukovych in office as President and maintain him in that office even if it meant murdering dissidents and killing protestors in the Maidan with sniper rifles.
Yet here you are doing everything in your power to relay yet again the Russian false propaganda that attempts to coverup the Russian efforts to subvert and overthrow any form of democrtic Ukrainian government and intimidate dissidents with murder, torture, and persecution. A fine example is your false comment, “Watching policemen with no guns being picked off by snipers paid for by US cash funneled to Ukraine and firebombs in realtime was disgusting.” The videos clearly show the policemen were heavily armed with armored personnel carriers, assault rifles, sniper rifles, and used those firearms to kill and murder unarmed protestors. In fact, even if there had been a fullblown war in progress, the Ukrainian police forces operating under the command of Ukrainian officers collaborating with Russian intelligence services were shooting unarmed people in ways that can be prosecuted as war crimes if the people being shot had been legitimate combat soldiers. In other words, there is no excuse whatsoever for their murderous actions or for your false reversal of the roles paled by the police and the protestors. You are simply serving as a disinformation agent and false propagandist for the Russian and their criminal actions.
“Abandonment of Ukraine legislature by paid off politicos was real time. They walked out with cash in the pockets - one brawl and then they fled - it was a group thing and the legislators gave up way before they needed to leave - looked very suspicious in real time.”
That comment is yet more false propaganda. The Rada fulfilled its obligations despite being heavily infiltrated with Delegates serving as collaborators for the Russian efforts to subvert and overthrow the citizens’ control of the Ukrainian government.
“Film of entry in to estate of former president was broadcast realtime. He lived like king tut!!”
Yes, and the Ukrainians such as Yanukovych and his ministers responsible for this oligarchic and criminal excess were collaborators and/or agents for the Russian intelligence services. They were simply members of the same organized crime group as Putin and Yeltsin, competing amongst themselves for control of their respective post-Soviet governments. The same is true of other such post-Soviet governments as belarus, Kazahkstan, and so forth.
The rest of your comments mindlessly repeats the false Russian propaganda in an effort to distrat attention away from Russia’s criminal acts and role in instigating the Ukrainain conflicts in an effort to destablize the Ukraine’s government, economy, and society. for example, your comment repeats the Russian accusations of Muslim influence in the Ukraine at the same time Russia and Putin recruit Muslims into the Russian Ground Forces and use them in irregular special operations battalions such as the Vostok Battalion in the role of unlawful infiltrators and terrorists in violation of the Hague Conventions and other international law respecting the laws of warfare.
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