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1 posted on 06/03/2014 9:25:18 AM PDT by blam
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I would honestly be surprised if the United States even has any gold reserves on-shore any longer.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 9:30:11 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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BTTT!


4 posted on 06/03/2014 9:31:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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There isn’t enough gold in the entire world to cover our national debt.

Gonna raise the value of gold to cover that? Me thinks Forbes has a bunch of overpriced gold he’s looking to unload.


6 posted on 06/03/2014 9:34:19 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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FACE “Great Depression II” ??

We’ve BEEN there for 5+ years already. . .


10 posted on 06/03/2014 9:40:18 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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Great Depression II


Sorry. I already coined that phrase back in 2007. And we’re already in it. People forget that it was decades before the Great Depression was called the Great Depression.

Oh, and the last one was international (as this one is).
Oh, and we all know how the last one ended.
Oh, and this one will be far worse (see Ezekiel 39 or Revelation).


12 posted on 06/03/2014 9:41:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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If the dollar is linked to gold, in the first year, the value of an ounce of gold would be well over $100,000, and a short time after that, over $1,000,000.

A figure that is widely used by investors comes from Thomson Reuters GFMS, which produces an annual gold survey. Their latest figure for all the gold in the world is 171,300 tonnes.

Officially, the US has 8,133.5 (metric) tonnes (likely very exaggerated). There are 32,150 Troy ounces in a metric ton.

This means that the US government has about 261,492,025 Troy ounces of gold.

First of all, calculate the US budget divided by that number. Then the US debt. This is the way to figure out how much inflation our currency would have to experience to normalize it with the amount of gold we theoretically have.


14 posted on 06/03/2014 9:41:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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News Flash.

We are already in Great Depression II. All the very worst of the New Deal and Jimmy Carter have been combined with the foreign policy ineptitude of the Kennedy-Johnson administration, when we got sucked into Viet Nam and lost open access to Berlin, in addition to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The favorable thing about the Kennedy years is that the war machine was cranked up and feeding the economy here at home, while today we don’t even have that, with a military falling to less than the level of the late 1930’s.

Gotta watch that carbon dioxide level, though.

You want reliable solar power? Put a huge array of solar collection panels in geosynchronous orbit above a fixed receiving point on earth, and transmit the generated power down by a tight microwave beam. No wires, no problems with power transformation, and no interruptions of service. Of course, anything that flies through that tight microwave beam is going to be instantly cooked.


15 posted on 06/03/2014 9:42:20 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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The best way to achieve monetary stability: linking the dollar to gold,” he wrote in the book out today. “The Fed should have only two tasks: keeping the dollar fixed to gold and dealing quickly and decisively with panics,” he wrote, according to excerpts provided in advance to Secrets.

If you link the dollar with gold then when the value of gold drops by a third, as it did in 2012-2013, then wouldn't the value of the dollar drop as well? And couldn't China destroy the value of the currency merely by dumping their gold into the market?

19 posted on 06/03/2014 9:44:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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In all due respect to Mr. Forbes, the culprit is the Congress, the Executive Branch and, by extension, the Judicial Branch. All have worked tirelessly to advance an expensive and ultimately self-defeating liberal agenda with impunity.

Correct me if I'm wrong here - the Fed takes it's marching orders from the Treasury, and the Treasury answers to the President. In addition, the President appoints the Fed Chairman or Chairwoman.

The blame lies squarely with our irresponsible politicians, plain and simple.

22 posted on 06/03/2014 9:46:17 AM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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Well that would be great except we have no gold.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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24 posted on 06/03/2014 9:51:44 AM PDT by blam
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Gold never backed the dollar. It’s US production that determines the value of the dollar. The old MV = PQ still holds. It also suggests that if output is falling, so should the money supply. Alas, that’s where the Fed has really screwed up. Any measure of the money supply has so far outstripped output that the “real” value of the dollar is in the pits. The piper isn’t that far away, and if these idiots in Washington don’t curtail spending, this Republic is doomed.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 9:57:13 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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Don't let the Government fix a price for Gold. Ever.

Gold's ancient role as money is being rediscovered by trading nations who are ditching the dollar FRN. This process can only accelerate as colossal debt forces fiat currencies to hemorrhage buying power.

Foreign exchanges are trading physical Gold and Silver while the COMEX (trading synthetic, non-physical 'Gold' and 'Silver') is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

Freed from the false signals generated by the COMEX: world markets will discover the correct price for precious metals.

Let markets find the price. Don't let Government do it.

28 posted on 06/03/2014 10:04:34 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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Linking the dollar to gold will cause the Great Depression II.


29 posted on 06/03/2014 10:05:27 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Not enough AU in the world (mined or known deposits), unless gold is at $10k/oz. Or more.

5.56mm


30 posted on 06/03/2014 10:13:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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He’s right, but he’s kinda disappeared and is persona non grata...

His magazine I used to love have become quite liberal repubbie and I chose to not renew.


31 posted on 06/03/2014 10:14:54 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Refuse to remain silent.)
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The US will abrogate it’s debt one way or another.

Massive runaway inflation is one way to make all financial instruments denominated in dollars and held external to the country worthless. All the treasury notes, dollars and electronic funds would be worth nothing. A new internal currency would need to be created and exchanged for internally held dollars. WAR(s) of some sort will follow such an action.

World war three might be ginned up to cover economic collapse. The result would be a reset like massive inflation but with more blood. Nuclear war would cause everyone to throw up their hands and say the past means nothing...our debts mean nothing and we will start fresh.
This scenario would be used as an excuse for collapse and a possible way to keep blame from the current leaders.

One of the above is going to happen.......IMO no other realistic possibility exists.


32 posted on 06/03/2014 10:17:28 AM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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If you were to tie the dollar to gold, without a longer transition period would shock the system into an even greater depression.

Everything would come to a halt. Credit would disappear. Deflation would be brutal and would drop our current standard of living to that of, say, Haiti.

Of course your debts would still be there. Costing you more and more every day.

I understand the theory. There is not enough gold to spread around.

We are just too screwed. We need to go through the collapse before this would work.


34 posted on 06/03/2014 10:24:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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I think we should go back to the stone standard:


35 posted on 06/03/2014 10:26:22 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Back when our currency was basically a warehouse receipt and the people had control (note two lines at bottom of bill):


36 posted on 06/03/2014 10:36:57 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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