Posted on 05/29/2014 6:55:17 PM PDT by jimbo123
Move to defeat House majority leader: I agree with much of what the tea party stands for and many of the efforts of leaders within it to elect conservatives. The tea party, however, is not one group; it is thousands of major and minor groups across the nation, and it is not possible to agree with all of them or for all of those groups to agree with each other.
Some Virginia tea-party groups are leading the charge to oust House Majority Leader Eric Cantor from his Seventh District seat. These groups have chosen David Brat, a college professor who appears to lean more toward Ayn Rand than either traditional or social conservatism. Brat was once an appointee of former Democrat Gov. Tim Kaine, although that does not automatically make him a liberal. Social conservatives will find a rather lofty but vague pro-life statement listed last among issues at his Internet site. Many of his other positions seem to be libertarian in nature, which makes sense as many tea-party groups are moving in that direction.
The biggest tea-party accusation against Cantor is that he is too establishment. The fact that he can move jobs and investments to his Seventh District seems to be a liability to him with tea-party members. It is, in essence, the tea party saying: The fact that Eric Cantor is the second most powerful man on Capitol Hill and can bring jobs and benefits to our district is proof he is too establishment and we need to get rid of him.
I appreciate a lot of what the tea party does, but in some of the groups there is a real lack of understanding of the Constitution that is waved around at meetings, when it comes to the duties of congressmen.
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Well, as someone pointed out, thankfully there's no RAT on the ballot in the general election in Cantor's district, so if Brat loses they can't all be brats and root for the RAT to win out of spite. But it does sound like Brat might be another closet Paulbot. I'm starting to worry half the tea party groups have been taken over by the Ron Paul crowd, and other half have been taken over by the GOP establishment.
Some anti-Cantor freeper is demanding "proof" that freepers used to worship Cantor, when I already posted links to FIVE different threads from a few years ago (and could add dozens more) demonstrating exactly that.
My favorite history revisionism on FR was this:
2008
1) Fred Thompson drops out, the only candidates left are McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
2) Majority of freepers jump aboard Romney express, believing he's the "most conservative" of the three (I didn't, I was in the extreme minority that backed Huckabee, and took a bunch of jeers and ridicule for it)
2012
1) Gingrich campaign points out that Santorum jumped aboard the Romney express late in the 2008 primary season, when the only candidates left were McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
2) Majority of freepers call him a traitor, phony conservative, and sellout.
Do as I say, not as I do...
Buffoons that can’t think past lunch have no place in politics.
Here's the closest thing to "worship" that I found from a female FReeper, who admires Cantor's appearance:
He's hawt. ;^)
That's it. Find me worship. You're making the charge, it's not my job to document your insinuations. I knew your charge of worship was false, because FReepers are Democrats and don't look to politicians for salvation. FReepers look to self-reliance and for politicians and government to get the heck out of the way. There's no worship of politicians here, troll.
Here's some more comments I picked out from comments in your links:
Yep. He fights. A good bold choice, hope McCain makes it
You mean Eric little piggy Cantor? The same Eric Cantor who refused to back eliminating earmarks?
I like Cantor, but I think he is too wonky to be leader.
He also supported the bank bail-out, which I can fogive, but it makes him suspect.
Remember these are from 2008 and 2010. We're not allowed to learned anything more in the 6 years this guy's been majority leader? Obviously, this is the period when he's had influence, power and made news. The consensus is that Cantor sucks based on his actions.
Cantor's latest campaign is really showing what a measerable weasel he is. I'm convinced he had his friend Congressman Gutierrez come in and hold a rally against him accusing him of blocking amnesty to HELP him with his voters. Cantor's internal polling must be showing he's getting killed on the illegal invasion issue.
There actually IS a rat running in Cantor’s district, a nobody with only $1000 in his campaign till, but even if they had a real candidate, it’s a safe seat.
“...a nobody with only $1000 in his campaign till, ...”
Sounds like the perfect candidate for one of your FRiends to “back”...
>> Sounds like the perfect candidate for one of your FRiends to back... <<
If he started screaming "TEA PARTY!!" and "ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT!!" loud enough, a bunch of useful idiots would probably start touting him on these boards (or if His Holiness Mark Levin did a pitch on his radio show for Cantor's obscure RAT opponent and claimed he was the "conservative constitutionalist" in the race)
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In an attempt to instill absolute purity. the Tea Party folks (many with their own agendas) may destroy their best opportunities for success, All politicians by their nature a flimsy at best
But that can work to the conservatives agenda...You apply pressure on issues and even the slimiest politician will swing in the direction you want
(provided you have enough people supporting that position)
You got that right.
The specific “FRiend” of Impy’s I’m talking about (I won’t name) lives a state directly south of me.
Last year the “FRiend” was babbling incessantly about “backing” some complete no name RAT candidate in the RAT primary (to fill Ed Markey’s seat, as he was elected Senator) as part of some grand strategy.
I live in the district (for nearly 20 years now) and the RAT candidate for ANY office is going to win ANY election in these parts for the next ‘x’ decades, period. The GOP could nominate Moses and he’d lose. Yet, this Lee Atwater-wannabe insisted that “backing” this unknown RAT candidate was good.
Said candidate finished either last or 5th out of 6th candidates. IIRC, a box of fabric softener received more votes than this “backable” candidate did.
Pathetic.
Now now, I’m certain the gentleman in question would not back the rat running against Cantor, he doesn’t oppose 90% conservative Republicans like the rocket scientists we have shilling for McConnell’s opponent.
It’s only safe rat districts where he backs democrats that appear to be “moderate” or “normal Americans” in comparison to the others, even when they have little to no chance (in the case of your district, poor as it was the Republican had a much better chance at winning the general election than his guy did of winning the rat primary)
I agree that’s a waste of time, long odds for very little “payoff”. Speaking broadly, any effort to moderate the rat party is doomed to spectacular failure. If you’re gonna tilt at windmills, I say do it for conservative Republican candidates.
He’s running as an independent then because no one filed for the dems by the deadline.
And, for the record, he’s a despicable piece of slime that crawled out from under a rock somewhere.
Reliable sources (Politics1, ourcampaigns, Green Papers) still show him (Mike Dickinson) as running as a rat even thought the news that he supposedly missed the deadline broke in April.
If he didn’t file as a rat are we sure if he filed at all? He seems to be attention whoring.
The rats are even embarrassed by him, they asked him to not refer to himself as a rat congressional candidate.
I’ll take ‘attention-whoring’ for $1,000, Alex.
Oops, I meant NOT Democrats. Government is the religion of Democrats and they need gods and pick saviors from among the politicians, which they then worship. There's a famous book by a former communist, The God that Failed.
FReepers are constitutional conservatives, who see a role for limited government which allows maximum freedom for individuals, families and institutions to make there way as best as they can. Worship of politicians does not come into it at all.
But it's the tea party that's harming the GOP. Right.
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Evidently to you Tea Party = Flat Earthers
I don’t know you; I’ve never chatted with you. You are interloping. That said, you do not understand the context what I’ve written. The posters that I pinged are folks that I’ve been chatting with (on FR in and in real life) for years. They are real friends.
But, I’ll answer your question: No I do not think “Tea Party = Flat Earthers”. Quite the contrary; MOST of them stand for “America”.
However, I do think there are idiots who call themselves everything from “Tea Parties” to “Republicans” who do more harm to the true Republican cause than any RAT can.
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