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Chicken Plants, High-Tech Visas And The Immigration Dilemma
Townhall.com ^ | May 28, 2014 | Byron York

Posted on 05/28/2014 4:56:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/28/2014 4:56:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The only reason those “Spanish speakers” were able to be the construction saviors described here is because the government was doing everything it could to obstruct all the legitimate contractors who were trying to get in to the area to help. Being illegal, these guys were able to swell the ranks of the few local contractors and get the job done, while bypassing all the nonsense being piled on the out-of-staters.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 5:02:21 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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The GOP elites should take note of the recent European elections.

The GOP will be signing it's own death warrant with amnesty.

/johnny

3 posted on 05/28/2014 5:04:57 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Hey, Haley, you pay enough and you’ll have Americans working in those chicken plants, and conditions will be be better for the workers too, because they won’t have any fear of being deported if they complain.

Not that illegal immigrants have much need to fear being deported. However, if they rose up, unionized, and started making demands on the corporations that employ them, somehow, it seems that Big Business’s love of the illegal would fade out.

Supply and demand, Haley baby. Econ 101.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 5:09:09 AM PDT by heartwood
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Black unemployment in the benighted state of Mississippi is somewhere around 35%. Fat Boy Barbour hasn't noticed illegals in chicken plants in his own state?

Government prefers to keep African-Americans out of the work force and to supply major contributors with trainable, more docile, illegal immigrants. Hopefully within my lifetime, African-Americans will notice this, especially those serving on the Congressional Black Caucus.

"Spanish Speaking Low-Skill Workers" were needed in NOLA ... when half the black people there don't work? Haley, have another mint julep and STFU.

5 posted on 05/28/2014 5:12:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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Forget the out-of-staters. How about all those unemployed men who were ‘victims’ of Katrina?

Could they not have done the work that the Spanish speakers did, whether they were camped outdoors, living in trailers, or whatever for a few months?


6 posted on 05/28/2014 5:13:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
The author makes a good point about automation but misses another one completely.

"Immigration reform" isn't intended to bring cheap labor into this country. It's aimed at bringing a new generation of consumers here -- which is why the automation argument doesn't hold any water in this debate.

7 posted on 05/28/2014 5:18:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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Thousands of homes in Mississippi were destroyed, "down to the slab," Barbour said at a recent conference on immigration hosted by National Journal in Washington. Construction workers were overwhelmed; many were homeless themselves. And then, almost out of nowhere, came help.

Gee, Barbour, do you suppose temporary work permits might have done the same thing? When we were in the Kobe earthquake of 1995, that is what the Japanese government did. There was no immigration category for construction workers. The Kobe area was seriously short on construction workers to rebuild. The Japanese construction companies needed construction workers and volia! Hundreds of mostly American and Australian construction workers suddenly came to the rescue on cultural visas.

They lived in tents mostly, did a nice job, didn't demand public services and went home when the job was done. Yeah, the cultural visa thing was a little bit of a stretch, but their temporary employers pointed out that their workers got cross-trained in the different construction techniques and the Kobe area got better housing as a result.

8 posted on 05/28/2014 5:18:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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"When you look at the skills shortage -- quote -- carefully, what you find is a lot of employers saying, 'I can't find the workers I need,'" Bernstein noted, "and what they're not saying is, 'at the wage I'd like to pay them.'"

The tightwads will bury us.

9 posted on 05/28/2014 5:23:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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For insight into rapacious businessmen, pols like Barbour, their love for illegals, and your food, just put ‘Jack Decoster’ into a search engine!


10 posted on 05/28/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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This article reminds me of a story I read years ago that I've never forgotten. The story involved Frederick Douglass, who had escaped from slavery in the South and became a famed abolitionist.

After he escaped and fled to New England, he worked as a laborer in the shipbuilding industry. One of the things that struck him at the time was that slavery was a crippling institution in the South even for the slave owners. This was because he and the other laborers who toiled in these difficult jobs -- many of them former slaves like himself -- had a better standard of living than their slave masters in the South.

11 posted on 05/28/2014 5:29:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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Haley, please immigration reform is needed if we want to keep America the country we are. Strengthen the borders and deport the ILLEGALS!


12 posted on 05/28/2014 5:53:39 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: heartwood
"Supply and demand, Haley baby. Econ 101"

In Econ 101, when you study supply an demand, you also study elasticity and inelasticity. In certain situations demand may rise in the form of higher wages but the supply is inelastic so it doesn't grow.

The labor supply has a degree of inelasticity because it takes 20 years to produce a new worker.

And sometimes supply may increase not within the market, but outside the market. We might be able to get that chicken cheaper by importing it from Mexico or China. Or, I don't want to pay that price for chicken so I substitute tuna. Or, the chicken processor facing tight labor supplies will respond by not trying to produce more product(birds) but by producing more valued added product such as a cooked bird so he can make more money per bird.

Looking at the CIA factbook stats we have a birth rate 13.42 per 1000 and an immigration rate of 2.45 per 1000 and when you subtract out the death rate we end up with a population growth rate of 0.77% per year. But each year the median age of the workforce increases

13 posted on 05/28/2014 6:17:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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I worked post Katrina Const. the employment office was the Home Depot. prob 40 to 50 always there. All Mexicans.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 6:37:56 AM PDT by DocJhn
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So, effing RINO Hayley Barbour is willing to give away my country’s sovereignty because Mississippi got some houses rebuilt after Katrina. Well, just frigging hunky dory.

How many rapists, criminals, disease factories, drunk drivers, baby factories that load up our school with “Spanish Speakers”, use our hospitals for free, overload our social and financial support systems, and on and on did that get us, Haley? How many? Too damned many you traitor!

They are going to give us nothing but 2nd and 3rd generation “Spanish Speaker” children whom they will have taught to hate this country of Gringos and to use it, not paying back one damned dime.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 6:38:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kenny Bunk

These carpet mills, chicken plants, agribusinesses, fast food joints, construction industry, et al are in for a very rude awakening when they’ve finally won their goal of getting a cheap and pliable foreign work source.

They’ll be Citizen Reconquista who will be intimately knowledgeable about unions, work laws and BENEFITS.

You all like them now because you have their illegality to hold over them; you won’t have that when the RINOs you’ve sponsored and the Democrats you’ve bought give them citizenship. You are all fools on a ship of fools.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 6:42:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The reason these builders and others want illegals is because they can pay them squat, no benefits and treat them like carpola and they cannot complain.

We have a gazillion chicken plants in GA and plenty of people who need work. Haley Barbour is a GOP progressive tool.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 6:56:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I'm retired but back in the 90s boom I sold industrial equipment that had to be installed/erected which I contracted out or hired temp labor from an agency because they provided liability and workmans comp.

But my preferred arrangement was to use the customer's employees and I would provide supervision, tools, and ladders. Those customers with illegal employees would often chose this arrangement so I've done my share of that.

18 posted on 05/28/2014 6:58:56 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Here I was doing it the hard way! Buying chicks.

I didn’t know you could grow them on plants!


19 posted on 05/28/2014 7:00:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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"They'd rather be in prison, literally, then work in a chicken processing plant."

Then prison conditions are too good.

20 posted on 05/28/2014 7:15:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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