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Pope says favors celibacy for priests but door open to change
Chicago Tribune ^ | 05/26/2014 | Reuters

Posted on 05/27/2014 5:18:07 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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1 posted on 05/27/2014 5:18:07 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
It's all about money. The church would have to pay the priest enough to support wife and children.

It's complicated but other churches seem to manage.

2 posted on 05/27/2014 5:23:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GIdget2004

Is Pope Francis looking closely at what is done in the Eastern Churches in regards to married priests?


3 posted on 05/27/2014 5:23:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: GIdget2004
. . . priestly celibacy is a tradition going back around 1,000 years . . .

1,000 years? Less than half of that, really. Two of the best known clergy in the sixteenth century were both married, Cardinal Thomas Wolsey and his successor, Thomas More.

I'm actually a direct descendent of the former.

4 posted on 05/27/2014 5:29:01 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sacajaweau

The calculus will soon change when the shortage of priests begins to impinge upon the collection basket. Then they may be willing to make the trade-off for the additional cost of supporting families.

He is correct in that the Church did allow priests to marry for the first several hundred years of it’s existence. Also correct in that juggling the demands of your flock and your family is incredibly challenging.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 5:30:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vigilanteman

Thomas More was never a priest.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 5:33:30 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Buckeye McFrog
That it wasn't always that way is common knowledge.

I'd say that wife and family would be a plus.

My hometown Catholic priest had a housekeeper, maid, cook combo and a bookkeeper and drove a Cadillac.

He was wonderful.

7 posted on 05/27/2014 5:37:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Thomas More was never clergy - what are you talking about?!?


8 posted on 05/27/2014 5:39:12 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Sacajaweau

The priests I have known have seen content with celibacy with one exception but the new bunch of deacons I could see transitioning into priesthood. Most of them are married.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 5:39:55 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: impimp

More was a lawyer.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 5:40:03 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Mistress and issue[edit]

Wolsey lived in a “noncanonical” marriage for around a decade with a woman called Joan Larke (born circa 1490) of Yarmouth, Norfolk. The edict that priests, regardless of their functions or the character of their work, should remain celibate had not been wholeheartedly accepted in England. Wolsey subsequently had two children, both born before he was made bishop. These were a son, Thomas Wynter (born circa 1510)[21] and a daughter, Dorothy (born circa 1512),[22] both of whom lived to adulthood. The son was sent to live with a family in Willesden and was tutored in his early years by Maurice Birchinshaw. He later married and had children of his own. Dorothy was adopted by John Clansey, and was in due course placed in Shaftesbury Nunnery, which had a fine reputation as a “finishing school”. Following the dissolution of the monasteries (under Thomas Cromwell) she was awarded a pension.[23] Following rapid promotion, Larke became a source of embarrassment to Wolsey who arranged for her marriage to George Legh of Adlington, in Cheshire, circa 1519. He himself provided the dowry.[21] Henry VIII had a mansion built for Legh at Cheshunt Great House.

He wasn’t allowed to marry but did it anyway. How come I seem to know more about your ancestor than you do?


11 posted on 05/27/2014 5:41:30 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Mercat

http://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?page=4833


12 posted on 05/27/2014 5:43:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Your point?


13 posted on 05/27/2014 5:45:56 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: impimp
In both of the parishes I attended, the priests had mistresses and everyone knew it.

My High School Chaplain (Father Finks) left the priesthood and was a follower of Saul Alinsky.

14 posted on 05/27/2014 5:46:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“A butcher’s son, and looks it?”


15 posted on 05/27/2014 5:48:16 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Sacajaweau

And such priests, were they married, would be any more virtuous?

A bad egg is a bad egg.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 5:52:52 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ThomasMore
See #4

Leni

17 posted on 05/27/2014 5:53:48 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: GIdget2004

Priest’s are stretched to their limit. The church needs more. If that means accepting marriage, I can live with it.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 5:58:11 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/26.italian.women.in.love.with.priests.ask.pope.francis.reconsider.celibacy/37541.htm


19 posted on 05/27/2014 6:00:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
It's all about money. The church would have to pay the priest enough to support wife and children.

And look at all the money the Church has saved, after paying off the lawsuits because of the child molester priests. (sacasm)

20 posted on 05/27/2014 6:02:49 AM PDT by grania
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