Businesses are going everywhere but New York

New York Post ^ | 05/26/2014 | By John Aidan Byrne

[SeekAndFind]

New York is losing the battle to lure outsourced jobs now slowly trickling back to the US — and more competitive regions are poaching Gotham’s jobs.

The tax breaks and incentives to stem New York’s slide? Too little, too late, critics say.

“If you’re a businessman thinking of bringing jobs back to one of the 50 states, then New York is at the bottom of that list,” said Neal Asbury, a manufacturer who grew up in Morristown, NJ, and has studied New York’s high cost base.

“You have a governor telling the world he doesn’t want conservatives in his state because you have to think like him — and you have a New York City mayor obsessed with raising taxes to pay for more entitlements. That is not sending a great message,”

[Oratam]

They are the real life body snatchers

They don't mean it that way because in their little bubble everyone thinks as they do. They have jettisoned any friends or acquaintances that don't share their views (all of them) and don't accept new ones who don't. The bubble becomes the echo chamber.

I'm sure you, as probably every other conservative on this board, would have no trouble being friends with liberals BUT for their intolerance. I don't think it's us who go around picking fights. I think at most we expect to engage in a thoughtful discussion where we defend our positions and either agree or part as friends. That's not the way for libs. It's total war--like Sherman through Georgia.

[cloudmountain]

Some of them will bring their families to California. The ones who will be more successful in the long run are the ones who will take their work experience back to India and run competing businesses in the same product fields from a part of the world with a more rational regulation structure.

So true.
And, good parallel.

Most VERY important data gets spread around anyway--eventually. That is part of our nature.

[Alberta's Child]

Thanks. Something else to think about is that one of the biggest political issues in New York these days is the pressure that the state government is putting on the Federal government to reject the license renewal for the Indian Point nuclear power plant in the Hudson River valley.

New York is already making plans to make up for the lost power transmission capacity once that plant is shut down. It will involve purchasing more and more power from Hydro-Quebec, and the long-term prognosis is likely to be for higher utility rates.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: But what’s sad, is that I can understand why they gave up being US Cits. . .

Some reasons are detailed in the articles here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/02/06/americans-renouncing-citizenship-up-221-all-aboard-the-fatca-express/

and here:

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/2014/03/10/expat-taxes-citizenship/

[Mr. Jeeves]

Singapore doesn’t really want more new citizens...unless your net worth is in the 5 million dollar and up range. The rest of the world now sees expat Americans as a bad bet - let them in and the IRS comes with them.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Cleanliness COSTS and some folks are just too cheap to spend money on what they consider “unnecessary” expenditures.

Look people understand that you must meet sanitary standards when you open restaurant or a food store.

However, This particular case is just one of the countless examples of REGULATION GOING TOO FAR.

Here we have A Health Department inspector bizarrely slapped a Brooklyn bagel shop with $1,650 in fines — because sesame and poppy seeds fell to the floor while the bagels were being made during working hours.

How is he supposed to make seeded bagels without SOME of the tiny goods spilling onto the ground?

It’s not as if he isn’t cleaning up.

What this inspector without common sense apparently wants is for him to clean up after each and every bagel.

To demonstrate, Gormakh, the shop owner placed two poppy and sesame bagels on a table near his $60,000 wood-burning oven, where they are baked “Montreal style” — smaller and chewier than their New York cousins.

“Look,” explained Gormakh, “a few seeds are always going to be dropped when you are dipping the bagel in the seeds. They don’t all stick like glue.”

“Now imagine the seeds from 100 bagels. Any place where bagels are produced will have these problems.”

The inspector argued that sesame seeds on the floor will attract mice. The problem is several inspections found NO MICE in his shop.

Now, Gormakh and his son, Max have invested close to $900,000 in larger stainless steel preparation tables — in hopes of containing seed fallout — and an expensive water-filter vacuum to suck up the seeds from the floor.

Try making a profit off your small business because of this...

Multiply this case hundreds of times in NYC and you begin to understand why businessmen think THRICE before opening a business in the city.

[SeekAndFind]

There you go -— the three letter word that starts the ex-pat ball rolling.

[cloudmountain]

It's my GUESS that the closure of the bagel shop had more to it than a few seeds on the floor. Shops get inspected regularly. Everyone makes mistakes and inspectors know that.

Fines and closures don't happen because of a few seeds.
THAT is our wunnerful media telling us what they want us to know and ONLY what they want us to know.

I BET that shop had more than that one infraction. You know that. The inspectors have too much on the line to close down ONE little shop for a few seeds.

That just doesn't make any sense.

[cloudmountain]

Thanks. Something else to think about is that one of the biggest political issues in New York these days is the pressure that the state government is putting on the Federal government to reject the license renewal for the Indian Point nuclear power plant in the Hudson River valley.

New York is already making plans to make up for the lost power transmission capacity once that plant is shut down. It will involve purchasing more and more power from Hydro-Quebec, and the long-term prognosis is likely to be for higher utility rates.

I always have to remember that we in the West are probably the cleanest, healthiest most safety conscious group of humans the world has ever seen.

At least New York is PREPARING for the worst, not just sitting on its proverbial thumbs waiting passively for things to happen a la Henny Penny.

There is a price to pay for that isn't there? WHAT would you folks do there without morning electricity? Oooooeeee, THINK of the hair that wouldn't get blown dried.

Men would wear beards. Women would wear scarves.

At least you have utilities.

Question: Do prices EVER go down on ANYTHING besides year-end sales of cars?
Not that I notice.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: It’s my GUESS that the closure of the bagel shop had more to it than a few seeds on the floor.

The bagel shop IS NOT CLOSED. It is still operating, but is barely making money because of regulators being on top of them all the time.

[cloudmountain]

The bagel shop IS NOT CLOSED. It is still operating, but is barely making money because of regulators being on top of them all the time.

I hope it stays open but what I said about regulation and such still holds true. ALL that for a few seeds? Something is not right there.