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Why Did This Union Oppose Higher Pay for Its Members?
Heritage Foundation/The Foundry ^

Posted on 05/19/2014 12:58:07 PM PDT by matt04

Few workers would turn down a raise. Union members, however, can have raises turned down on their behalf.

Employees of a Pennsylvania grocery store learned this the hard way.

Managers at the Giant Eagle grocery in Edinboro, Pa., wanted to reward hard work. So they boosted the wages of two dozen high-performing employees above their union rates. But United Food and Commercial Workers Local 23 was not pleased. The union argued the pay increases violated their contract, took Giant Eagle to court and forced it to rescind the raises.

Why did Local 23 oppose higher pay for its members? Because it upended their seniority system, allowing junior employees to make more those with more seniority. Local 23 wanted uniform pay scales—even if that meant cutting some of their members’ wages.

Workers today want—and expect—recognition for their contributions and abilities, but uniform-pay scales forbid that. Such contracts could work in the assembly line economy of the 1930s, where workers performed essentially interchangeable jobs. Not in today’s knowledge economy. Why would a software designer or a search-marketing consultant want one?

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.heritage.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: giant; ginateagle; payraise; raise; ufcw; union; unions
I worked for a UFCW grocery store. This doesn't surprise me. The only thing the UFCW and Unions care about is how to libe their own pockets.

I would love to see Giant Eagle refuse to include any raises in the next contract. Hey, we tried to raise your pay, but you union said no. Too bad, you wanted a Union, you got it.

1 posted on 05/19/2014 12:58:07 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
Why Did This Union Oppose Higher Pay for Its Members?

Because the primary function of unions is NOT to represent workers.

2 posted on 05/19/2014 1:09:07 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: matt04

I would love to see the union members vote to decert. But there are probably more that benefit from making more than they are worth than those that don’t.


3 posted on 05/19/2014 1:15:26 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: matt04

The author says unions need to reinvent themselves. They are fossilized relics of a time long gone. They cannot reinvent themselves away from their communist origins. If they do they prove there is no need for them.

Virtually all of my experiences with unions have been bad. My father tried to reform the IBEW by running against the corrupt president of his local. They sent five goons to discuss it. That didn’t work as my dad had a gun when they confronted him. He lost due to a rigged election. (Thank God.)

My first job was union and the union literally drove the company into bankruptcy. I arrived at my second job, just out of college, just after they’d had a union vote and lost. Union members or pro-union sympathizers destroyed the cars of non-union sympathizers, forcing them to leave the company. (It backfired and they lost.)

When I worked at Honeywell I got set up by a few union employees. I carried a load across a yellow and black tape on the floor where only union employees could carry a load. They assaulted me and each got $250 for their trouble and I got written up.

At the next job the union people regularly sabotaged the equipment and also played tricks so they’d get bonuses and we’d get written up.

A union creates and us vs. them atmosphere that makes a company non-competitive against their non-union peers.


4 posted on 05/19/2014 1:17:42 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: matt04

The workers ought to vote to disband the union in their workplace.


5 posted on 05/19/2014 1:29:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Unions exist to give importance and money to Union Leadership.

I thought everyone knew that.

6 posted on 05/19/2014 1:34:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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UFCW cost me a really good paying meat cutting job by voting to strike in a soft labor market. I was a different union & didn't get a vote. The company responded by folding then getting rid of as many high pay/low seniority workers as they could - i.e. me.

Although you know what they say about payback; within 4 years everyone was out of a job when the company folded.

7 posted on 05/19/2014 1:36:14 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Gen.Blather

Unions are of lesser value than the crust in a Hobo’s underwear.


8 posted on 05/19/2014 1:40:23 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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“Unions are of lesser value than the crust in a Hobo’s underwear.”

Oh, my gosh. That thar’s funny!


9 posted on 05/19/2014 1:53:17 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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At my UFCW grocery store job I once had a issue with my direct boss, who was in another UFCW Local. I called the Union as the Shop Steward suggested.

They seemed really interested come down like a ton of bricks on the eeeevil boss, until they realized it was another Union member who cause the problem. Suddenly, their was no more problem, despite me not getting paid for the hours I worked. In the end it was the eeevil corporation who stepped up and fixed the issue.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 2:17:41 PM PDT by matt04
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“In the end it was the eeevil corporation who stepped up and fixed the issue.”

There were some tremendously evil corporations in the nineteenth and early twentieth century. But federal and state laws fixed those problems, thus eliminating 99% of the need for unions. That 1% could be resolved any number of ways that do not involve unions. Unions are dinosaurs.


11 posted on 05/19/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Sounds like when I worked at Caldor’s, which was a UFCW store. The store was in bankruptcy, but we couldn’t get anything to help Caldor’s (a big store chain in the northeast) that workers wanted. We knew the chain would close, but we wanted to cut our wages to help. Union said no.


12 posted on 05/19/2014 5:20:32 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: matt04

And people give me crap for shopping at NON-UNION Walmart...


13 posted on 05/19/2014 8:32:09 PM PDT by BobL
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