Affirmative action amendment divides state's Asian Americans

Los Angeles Times ^ | 5/18/2014 | Frank Shyong

[jeannineinsd]

The alarming messages began appearing on Chinese-language social media networks in early February: A proposal in the California Legislature would cut the number of Asian students admitted to UC schools.

. . . The sudden backlash against affirmative action took mainstream Asian American political leaders by surprise.

. . . "These are two different worlds," said Karthick Ramakrishnan, a political science professor at UC Riverside. "And a big part of the difference in opinions is how the issues are presented to them."

. . . The amendment would simply ask California voters whether the ban on affirmative action in public education should be overturned.

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[jeannineinsd]

This is an interesting article in the LA Times. There was an action the the legislature to overturn Proposition 209, which outlawed affirmative action/racial preferences.

There was a backlash against this move by Asian-American parents.

I found this article to be incredibly condescending to the parents. The comments to the article are also very illuminating. There are comments from people who think good students seeking admission to the university should not be penalized by their skin color. There are also comments from people who feel it is very important that the racial composition of the state's universities match the composition of the state's population.

[Brownie63]

The color of an applicant’s skin is more important than the content of their GPA and SAT scores?

[Jeff Chandler]

Supplies!

[Myrddin]

I vote for choosing good students with a good probability of competing and graduating. When I was at UCSD from 1974 to 1976, the 5% quota for "minorities" was a dismal failure. Over 85% dropped out the first year. Less than 2% ever made it too grad school. Lots of admission slots wasted on incapable applicants for the sole purpose of social engineering.

[PapaBear3625]

I vote for choosing good students with a good probability of competing and graduating. When I was at UCSD from 1974 to 1976, the 5% quota for "minorities" was a dismal failure. Over 85% dropped out the first year. Less than 2% ever made it too grad school. Lots of admission slots wasted on incapable applicants for the sole purpose of social engineering.

It would make more sense, and be cheaper, to have students who would not meet the "white" admission standards enroll in community college and demonstrate that they can do college-level work, THEN be given admission tryouts.

[PGR88]

This article reads like a lot of fearful leftist ass-covering and back-tracking.

It cites (probably manipulated or over-generalized) studies showing Asian-Americans back affirmative action and blames Asians’ present outrage on “misinformation.”

[andyk]

What difference do these props make if they can be overturned by judges?

[fifedom]

In the original article: “The first — familiar to politicians and minority leaders — contained younger Asian Americans and older immigrants who are typically Democrats with a history of forming political coalitions with blacks and Latinos to elect Asian officials and achieve policy goals. The other group, recent immigrants from mainland China and elsewhere, seem to enter political life only when an issue attracts them.”

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In other words, the kids who have been brain washed by the government schools and the older probably ABC (American Born Chinese) who have learned to milk the system supported the discrimination against them.

The supporters of “affirmative action” are outright racists. I recall Ronn Owens, a leftist talk show host on KGO in the Frisco area, saying that without affirmative action the universities would fill up with Asians. All of his callers thought that would be horrible. My take was that if they had the grades and test scores, more power to them.

Interestingly, Owens is Jewish, and Jews are also discriminated against. Some of the opposition that torpedoed the racist bill also came from Jewish groups.

The Rats saw the light when they felt the heat from these key groups of their coalition so they killed the bill. They probably figured that regardless of affirmative action there is no way Blacks and Mexicans are going to endanger their welfare checks by voting for the Pubbies and they were almost certainly right.

[ConservingFreedom]

In 1996, a Times exit poll found that 61% of Asian Americans had voted against Proposition 209, the ban on affirmative action.

Liberal guilt: it's not just white any more.

[cynwoody]

The alarming messages began appearing on Chinese-language social media networks in early February: A proposal in the California Legislature would cut the number of Asian students admitted to UC schools.

The California legislators are racists, pure and simple. No other way to cut it!

[BenLurkin]

Allotting admissions on Basis of Race = prima facie Racism.

[Myrddin]

The UC system has a "deal" with the community colleges to transfer students who have completed an approved AA/AS program with specific courses approved for transfer to the UC system. That is an economical and successful approach regardless of your original paint job. The 85% fail cases are typically freshmen taken from high school and admitted to meet quotas without attention to whether they have the academic ability to compete. Once you get into the classroom, your fellow students are simply cut throat competitors. Sink or swim. The instructor has 200 to 500 students sitting in the lecture. There's no time to coddle a poor performer.

[pogo101]

Liberals keeps misspelling the term “racial preferences” as “affirmative action.” Funny, that.

[MrB]

The modern liberal will always choose the failed over the successful.

[BobL]

It looks like Asians are the first people to really figure out that there are people that lose because of Affirmative Action...nice to see them giving their Democrat-appointed ‘leaders’ hell over this.