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Investment & Finance Thread (May 18 edition)
Investment & Finance Thread ^ | 05/18/2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 05/18/2014 5:35:14 PM PDT by expat_panama

 

 

 

My thinking was that if the current stock correction's now six weeks old, how old would that be if I could prove I was a cocker spaniel?

 

fwiw, we're still inside both these trendlines and these too.

 

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

 

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: financial; stockmarket; wallstreet
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To: expat_panama

Do I dare picking a short-term bottom here? I’m tempted.


21 posted on 05/20/2014 11:52:13 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
a short-term bottom here?

Somehow when I look at how prices have been going---

--I'm a bit hard pressed to see that we've had any bottoms or tops at all since Dec. '13.  For some reason or other everything just got perched and won't move.  Maybe it's all waiting for a decisive trend in the '14 election, maybe stocks have decided to build a super strong'n'stable base to launch the next 3-year bull market, or maybe nobody knows nuttin'.   My take is that while it's real easy to make money during a solid uptrend, and that lots of folks make money on shorts during a down trend, and some even can profit during back & forth volitility --I've never known how anyone can profit when nothing happens.  Anyone?

OK, so at least we don't lose money here...

22 posted on 05/20/2014 12:43:30 PM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: expat_panama
Hi.

My take is that while it's real easy to make money during a solid uptrend, and that lots of folks make money on shorts during a down trend, and some even can profit during back & forth volitility --I've never known how anyone can profit when nothing happens. Anyone?

The options to hedge your bet/investment is called a "straddle."

No, I'm not going to explain the margins, dynamics, etc. right now. Maybe someone else can.

5.56mm

23 posted on 05/20/2014 12:47:25 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
a "straddle."

ah.

thanks.

 

[more homework tonight...]

24 posted on 05/20/2014 3:38:45 PM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Where the heck did you find those sector graphs. I MUST HAAAAVE!!!!!!!


25 posted on 05/21/2014 3:58:56 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957

On my Twitter Finance list:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bpjauburn/lists/finance

Can’t remember who posts them but it’s pretty much every day. This is a pretty good list of traders, Econ people, finance journalists, banks, etc.


26 posted on 05/21/2014 4:35:08 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

Happy Mid-week; stocks still within ranges (down but not too bad yesterday + today's futures upbeat)


27 posted on 05/21/2014 5:25:24 AM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: catfish1957
Tried recreating in FactSet. this is May to date performance. I can get a daily once the markets open:


28 posted on 05/21/2014 6:08:29 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Please help me out torch, I’ve wandered thru twitter & the link, I’ve searched the image, but I still can’t find where you’re generating the chart.


29 posted on 05/21/2014 6:48:51 AM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: expat_panama

I didn’t generate it. Someone in my finance list on Twitter did yesterday.


30 posted on 05/21/2014 7:13:09 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Working on a different on in FactSet for intraday


31 posted on 05/21/2014 7:21:55 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

come to think of it, probably be something in the ‘research’ tab of a broker or IBD...


32 posted on 05/21/2014 7:31:09 AM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: expat_panama

Probably. I’ve got it built in FactSet so I’ll post after lunch.


33 posted on 05/21/2014 8:28:58 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

WT ... Thanks for the link. Was afraid you had to be a SPDR investor to get it. Will definitely bookmark. Sector performance is one of my benchmarks to guess where the market is going.


34 posted on 05/21/2014 9:24:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957
Here's today's performance so far:


35 posted on 05/21/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

Hi guys!   So we got stock futures drifting down into minus land (slightly) after yesterdays rebound in lighter trade.  Like we were saying --that even if there may be no big direction in general there's always direction bigtime in individual market sectors.  Time to focus on which one.  fwiw. claims & home sales today.   Here's what's got my eye this AM:

High Frequency Hyperbole - Part II - Asness, Brown, Mendelson, Mittal, RCM
We Haven't Seen a Bull Market, Yet - Russell Redenbaugh/Jim Juliano, RCM
Is a Bond and Stock Correction On the Way? - Michael Gayed, MarketWatch
China's Vulnerability to Bad News - Philippa Malmgren, International Econ.
We're in a stock 'correction right now': Gartman And "there's more selling to come,' closely followed investor Dennis Gartman tells CNBC. CNBC
No, stocks aren’t wildly overvalued: Citi strategist finds hole in Shiller’s CAPE Tobias Levkovich says the Nobel-winning professor committed a critical error in constructing his cyclically adjusted P/E valuation model. Daily Ticker


36 posted on 05/22/2014 5:13:56 AM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch; catfish1957
ah --it's sector funds as an index of sector performance --neat!  here's ten weeks + NASDAQ&SnP:

Looks like we got energy on top & consumer discretionary on the bottom...

37 posted on 05/22/2014 5:42:43 AM PDT by expat_panama (If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it.)
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To: expat_panama

Thanks expat and WT.... Is there a “link” so I can personally use this, and massage the graph parameters for my research?


38 posted on 05/22/2014 5:48:21 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: expat_panama; Wyatt's Torch

I found what looks to be a “tools” section at the SPDR site that requires registration. (and subscription?). Are y’all subscribers, or is there some magical link to the graphing tools?


39 posted on 05/22/2014 5:56:01 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957

I use FactSet (buy side terminal) which is subscription based like a Bloomberg.


40 posted on 05/22/2014 6:08:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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