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Opposing Gay Marriage Is a Waste of Your Time
National Journal ^ | May 14, 2014 | Ron Fournier, Senior Political Columnist & Editorial Director

Posted on 05/15/2014 1:31:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 05/15/2014 3:42:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Like those who stood against civil rights for African-Americans, gay-marriage foes are fighting a battle they can't win.

LITTLE ROCK, Ark.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arkansas; civilrights; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; judicialactivism; ronfournier; samesexmarriage
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To: RatRipper

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21 posted on 05/15/2014 1:55:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For if the Lord don’t care
And he chooses to ignore-ah
Tell it to the people
Of Sodom and Gomorrah

(from Steve Taylor’s song “Whatever Happened to sin?”)

Degradation and perversion will be judged.

America has murdered millions of unborn children, has enslaved millions more to government, and is now forcing the celebration of unnatural relations and perversion. We will answer for these sins.

We are living under judgement.

Pray that God saves a remnant.


22 posted on 05/15/2014 2:08:45 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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23 posted on 05/15/2014 2:10:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Winston Churchill

24 posted on 05/15/2014 2:11:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to take Ron’s advice and “bend over and take it like a man”?


25 posted on 05/15/2014 2:13:50 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is absolutely correct about it being a losing fight. I started saying so on this forum about three years ago and was roundly denounced for saying so.

My analysis was based simply on the obvious change in public opinion on the issue and the astonishing rapidity of that change. Recent elections have proven I was right.

Personally, I’m opposed. But that doesn’t mean I have to pretend most Americans agree with me when they quite obviously don’t. I think the majority of Americans are wrong on quite a few issues, this is just another one.

Whether it’s a waste of time to fight it depends on your POV on whether fighting the good fight, even in a cause you know is lost, is just a waste of time.


26 posted on 05/15/2014 2:15:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where are the libertarians that are usually pushing this theme on FR?

Including Rand Paul, and his FR supporters?


27 posted on 05/15/2014 2:17:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RatRipper

Look for Christians to be much more bolder in their faith in the future.


28 posted on 05/15/2014 2:28:06 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s okay with you, Ron, I’ll be the arbiter of what wastes my time.


29 posted on 05/15/2014 2:30:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: SoFloFreeper

Or a great deal of witnessing by Christians to bring many to the Lord down the road.


30 posted on 05/15/2014 2:30:33 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

AMEN.


31 posted on 05/15/2014 2:31:23 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Opposing gay marriage is a waste of time in a culture that practices contraception.


32 posted on 05/15/2014 2:45:10 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pray for the conversion of all to Christ.


33 posted on 05/15/2014 2:47:18 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comparing a racial minority to a behavior-based minority is like comparing apples and asteroids.


34 posted on 05/15/2014 2:53:13 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(Great quote!!)


35 posted on 05/15/2014 2:54:07 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having dark skin is not a behavior.


36 posted on 05/15/2014 3:15:26 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God invented marriage, not man. God designated marriage, not as a contractual agreement, but as a covenant. Governments may be able to regulate contracts, but a covenant is based on the laws of God and not man. Thus marriage is an institution outside of the bounds of government.

As with all things Statist, the secular State’s definition of marriage and divorce has come to have more weight in society than God’s definition.

God defines marriage as being between men and women. While many men whom God called righteous in the Bible practiced polygamy, Jesus is quoted in Matthew chapter 19 that from the beginning of humanity, it was God’s intent that marriage would only be one man and one woman. In Mark chapter 10, Jesus stated that God, not man, joins the husband and wife and the two are “one flesh”, an act that by its very nature can only be heterosexual.

God defines sexual relations between people of the same sex as against His law, that is immoral. In Revelation 22:15, a book dictated to John by Jesus, God tells us that anyone who practices sexual immorality will not be granted eternal life.

Maybe it is time to get government out of the marriage business and to return it to the private sphere. The problem for me today is that people who want to call themselves “married” against God’s law (as I read it) are willing to use the State to force me to recognize that marriage, which I cannot do. The want to have the State’s public education system indoctrinate my children that homosexual marriage is “normal”. They want to force me to subsidize the homosexual marriage in the tax code just like the godly marriage is subsidized, and they will use state agencies to punish me for “discrimination” if I decline to accept their status in any way.

If the State must force me to acknowledge its power to declare two men to be “married”, then I must support efforts to remove that power from the State. If people who don’t want God defining their personal morality demand a separation of church and State then let us also have separation of marriage and State as well. If those people don’t want any displays of the Ten Commandments in government buildings, they cannot hide behind the Commandments that protect marriage when it comes to “marriage” that God cannot and will not sanction.


37 posted on 05/15/2014 3:28:22 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll stand against this evil and fight it to my dying breath. America may indeed adopt this abject depravity of fag-marriage. And, that will be the ultimate, symbolic demarcation point for me that America has fully become an evil, degenerate nation. A nation that truly needs to be defeated and brought down.

Fournier can go die in a fire as far as I’m concerned. People like him shoving this sick, twisted garbage onto this once great nation are no better than a subhuman al-Qaeda militant.


38 posted on 05/15/2014 3:36:06 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Supreme Court has to right to even hear a case like this. It’s a state issue.

And it’s not about equality or discrimination. The color of ones skin is much different than sexual orientation when it comes to law.


39 posted on 05/15/2014 3:38:46 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: sickoflibs

They’ll go overboard and turn people off. They always do.

Just wait until the first time this gay NFL player gets creamed (no pun intended) on the field by some OT...the left will scream and demand fines.


40 posted on 05/15/2014 3:41:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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