“The measure of a man is what he does with power.” ~Plato
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Posted on 05/13/2014 3:16:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul. Fraud. All one needs to know.
did you hear it? Beep…..beep…..beep…..beep…...
I will say this: he’s right about not going to deport 12 million people. I know some Freepers will admit this, and some will not. Either way, I think we all agree that after that, he went straight downhill.
Hahahaha!!!
Why? We didn’t import them. Just make it so there is no reason to come here. Go after the businesses that hire them. That’s what we did in the 1950’s.
Demagnitize the country.
lolz
Oh, I agree we can and should redo our entire border and welfare system as a start. If we did that, and deported the felons as they were arrested for whatever crimes they were doing, this problem would unravel itself in a few years for the most part.
But until we do two things with welfare: stop giving it to non citizens PERIOD…and shorten the time we give it to citizens, this problem is with us to stay. Them’s the facts. I don’t like them, but they are true nonetheless.
What’s so funny…...
Rand Paul wants to round up 12 million illegals and force them to get a governmnet issued card like some sort of big government stooge.
If you reward them with work permits illegals can get better and better jobs.
It’s all a matter of will. But you are right, we won’t. Not because we cant, just that we will not. Wanting our cake and eating it too is the mindset that dooms us.
There will be more of it from Rand.
I agree.
I don’t think its just will. Its our system: Short story:
We recently had arrested our former bookkeeper for embezzling about 200 K from us over 3 years. We provided all the forensic info to the DA and the financial crimes officer, provided her home address and school schedule….and it took 5 months to cuff her.
Multiply this by 12 million. ACTUALLY it’s worse than that. Being here illegally is just a single misdemeanor. It’s not even a felony, and it doesn’t count as a separate crime every day you’re here. Again, sorry to be the bearer of reality. Also, no one is going to hand over all the info on each illegal like we did our single felon. This is our system.
So, when do we get this done? Around 900 years from now? Trust me, not gonna happen. Just isn’t. Can’t. But we can make the problem largely benign in about 2-3-4 years if we would reform welfare and secure the border. Period.
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Yes, I hate to be the bearer of reality…..liberals are not the only ones who avoid it sometimes.
That doesn’t disprove what I said at all. His plan is crap, which I said. There are more than two answers to this question, and most of them are wrong. His plan is wrong, though part of his premise is right. That’s all I said.
Sorry, reality sucks sometimes.
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