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Forget Climate Change: EMP Attack On Power Grid Could Kill 9-In-10
Investor's Business Daily ^ | May 12, 2014 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 05/12/2014 9:26:01 AM PDT by raptor22

Vulnerability: Expert testimony before Congress on Thursday warned that an electromagnetic pulse attack on our power grid and electronic infrastructure could leave most Americans dead and the U.S. in another century.

That dire warning came from Peter Vincent Pry, a member of the Congressional EMP Commission and executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security.

He testified in front of the House Homeland Security Committee's Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Infrastructure Protection and Security Technologies that an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) event could wipe out 90% of America's population.

Most people's eyes might glaze over upon mention of the committee name, the title of the hearing — "Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP): Threat to Critical Infrastructure" — and the general subject of EMP. But it is a real threat and not the stuff of science fiction.

Some attention has been paid to the potential cataclysmic effects of a natural phenomenon such as a massive solar storm, an event that has occurred in America's horse-and-buggy era when it did not matter.

Today an electromagnetic pulse event would be devastating. It wouldn't need a solar storm, just a solitary nuke detonated in the atmosphere above the American heartland. We would envy the horse-and-buggy era.

"Natural EMP from a geomagnetic superstorm, like the 1859 Carrington Event or 1921 Railroad Storm, and nuclear EMP attack from terrorists or rogue states, as practiced by North Korea during the nuclear crisis of 2013, are both existential threats that could kill 9-of-10 Americans through starvation, disease and societal collapse," the Washington Free Beacon quoted Pry as saying.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: electricgrid; emp; northkorea; nuclearjihad; nuclearterror; nuclearterrorb; peterpry; petervincentpry; powergrid; pry
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I agree with your take on it.


81 posted on 05/12/2014 12:17:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: RitchieAprile

No, the Federal Russian Nuclear center in Snezhinsk IIRC.


82 posted on 05/12/2014 12:18:17 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: raptor22

OK, Iraq was a fairly modern country in 2003 when we went to war. We essentially took out their entire electric grid. And it does not appear that a significant number of people died from the attack.


83 posted on 05/12/2014 1:46:19 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: sand88; DoughtyOne

55 miles is about 290,000 feet, which is around a “few hundred thousand feet”.


84 posted on 05/12/2014 1:50:04 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dfwgator
“Never mind that s—t, here comes Mongo.”

Blazing Saddles has the answer to everything!

85 posted on 05/12/2014 1:51:41 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Such an attack would take out much of Southern Canada and Northern Mexico and even some South American countries might be affected. That is if one trusts the numbers being bandied about....the thing is the effects would be uneven...some places badly damaged ,other places not even scratched due to varied geological and manmade features. The attack would have to be done at night to maximize the effect as the magnetic field is thicker on the night side due to the influence of the solar particles on the day side which thins out the field on the day side while thickening it on the night side. The solar particle effects themselves might dampen an emp effect on the day side due to phase cancellations...ect.


86 posted on 05/12/2014 2:07:20 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (It was never Bush's fault...Spock's messing with red matter was what screwed us all up!)
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To: MHGinTN
It has happened before in human History.

The number of people alive today dwarfs the total number of people who have ever lived before in history.

If 9 out of 10 people were to die suddenly there is no way that the bodies could ever be disposed of by the survivors.

87 posted on 05/12/2014 2:22:06 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: thackney
Yeah, you and your stinkin' credentials. It's time to panic I tell ya. PANIC!
88 posted on 05/12/2014 2:32:13 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: maine-iac7
Never fear. they got that covered - redistributed HUNDREDS of thousands of these all over the country - at FEMA camps.

Doesn’t really matter if they have any number of caskets if you can’t get the bodies to the caskets.

With an EMP attack no truck or car will work unless that car has been stored inside a Faraday cage during the EMP attack.

An EMP attack will burn out every computer board, every motor, every generator, every cell phone. Any electronic device in the EMP blast radius that was not EMP harden (which is almost exclusively DOD special purpose equipment) will become instantly useless.

Without truck to hall the dead or excavators to dig the graves the dead will pretty much rot where they died. Nineteenth century tech will become highly sought after.

Even if they could transport the dead I don’t think they have the facilities to handle 300 million dead.

89 posted on 05/12/2014 2:33:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I’m just glad we own a horse.


90 posted on 05/12/2014 2:40:16 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
I doubt 300 would destroy the all the nations electrical equipment past the point to return to use.

Unfortunately this is not something on which I can comment further. FWIW.

91 posted on 05/12/2014 2:51:39 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: thackney

You know, however difficult it would be to refine gasoline after this EMP to end all EMP’s, I betcha I could distill ethanol.


92 posted on 05/12/2014 3:09:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Myrddin; mosaicwolf

There seems to be this theory tha if someone is being successful, someone else needs to be unsuccessful to even things out.

A busy economy sparks activity in other economies. If a large economy disappears, it reduces activity in other economies.

It does not all of a sudden creat greater opportunity.


93 posted on 05/12/2014 3:09:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Yup. Cheering for broken windows and tornadoes to spur the construction/remodeling slump is a loser too.
94 posted on 05/12/2014 3:24:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

EMP PING


95 posted on 05/12/2014 3:36:59 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: GOPJ

Remember the day the EBT cards died last year?


96 posted on 05/12/2014 3:47:37 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: Pontiac

Nature would dispose of the bodies. Bacteria are the most dominant life form on the planet.


97 posted on 05/12/2014 6:32:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Pontiac

Serenity ... just sayin’


98 posted on 05/12/2014 6:33:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: raptor22
I'm typically ambivalent to this whole "EMP's gonna kill everyone" nonsense.

HOWEVER.

Last week this planet experienced an M-Class flare that seriously disrupted our ionosphere. I mean seriously disrupted --- pretty much all the HF bands in Amateur Radio were completely DEAD and VHF communications was limited to under 20 miles and even then it was iffy.

And that was just a major M-Class solar flare.

A bigger flare or an EMP? Yeah, I'm getting concerned.

99 posted on 05/12/2014 6:44:49 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MHGinTN

You must have missed my post #20


100 posted on 05/13/2014 3:00:25 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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