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Svoboda “Freedom” (formerly known as Social Nationalist party (The Nazis being the National Socialist party) having 1/4 of the temporary gov’t positions and being in bed with Right Sector makes Kiev legitimate? Coups are legitimate?

I don't know anything about this party. Under a Parliamentary system colations are almost always a necessity though. Generally there are many parties, and coalitions are need to make up a clear majority. It doesn't necessariliy mean that a party that forms a coaltion with antoher party would have to agree with it's tenets.

When the KKK's members used to vote with the Democrats, it was because the Dixie Demorats were comfortable being a part of the KKK. In the 1990s when David Duke was endorsing the Republican Party candidates, it wasn't because the Republicans favored the Klan. It was because the Demcorats had become so objectionable to the Klan, that it preferred to support Republicans. The KKK was a ship without a port.I submit that this type of dynamic takes place in a Parliamentary system.

The WH initially said that the coup in Egypt that overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood was apparently illegitemate in their eyes and thus they could not get any foreign aid from the U.S. Okay...

I guess Obama gets to decide what is and isn’t legitimate... Okay...

Social Nationalist and/or National Socialist Party: worst political parties that can be conceived. We must all stand with the Jewish people!

And who says we shouldn't?

Under a Parliamentary system, the minor parties don't get a controling voice. They merely get a voice. If a bad party is there, soemtimes a coalition is necessary so the decent larger party can be elected. I does not mean that the larger party agrees with all the groups in it's coalition, and will drive their agenda home. It merely means that it needs the coalition to get it's own agenda implemented.

You still didn't answer if Svoboda being a Social Nationalist party is a legitimate party?

I am just asking you for your opinion on their legitimacy.

Secondly, why should the U.S. have anything to do with the Kiev gov’t if they are going to tolerate this political party and not throw them out? The commies were recently tossed from the parliament. Being a commie makes them illegitimate, just like Svoboda is illegitimate.

They could toss Svoboda for being anti-Semitic if they wanted to. But I guess commies talking about secession is worse than being anti-Semitic.

Do you think that Obama/White House should be able to decide which coups are (Ukraine) or aren't (Egypt) legitimate?

You still didn't answer if Svoboda being a Social Nationalist party is a legitimate party?

Since I don't know what the Svoboda party is in truth, I can't give you an answer on that quesiton. There are a lot of folks using the word NAZI on the forum right now, and so much so that it's impassible to tell if it's being used legitimately in any particular instance. Just a little earlier someone was calling the E.U. a NAZI organization.

I am just asking you for your opinion on their legitimacy. This is what I stated. LINK

Secondly, why should the U.S. have anything to do with the Kiev gov’t if they are going to tolerate this political party and not throw them out?

You are now asking a question once removed, concerning an entity I already told you I was unfamiliar with.

The commies were recently tossed from the parliament. Being a commie makes them illegitimate,...

The commies were siding with Russia, trying to break away portions of the Ukraine. That seems treasonous. I"m not sure why this would not register with you.

...just like Svoboda is illegitimate.

Perhaps so, but I don't know that right now.

They could toss Svoboda for being anti-Semitic if they wanted to.

Perhaps so, but I don't know what Svoboda is actually like, so I can't agree or disagree.

But I guess commies talking about secession is worse than being anti-Semitic.

Treasons generally trumps just about anything as nations go.

Do you think that Obama/White House should be able to decide which coups are (Ukraine) or aren't (Egypt) legitimate?'

I don't consider what took place in the Ukraine to be a coup. Your cabinet losing confidence and resigning is not a coup. It's merely a mass resignation due to a lack of confidence.

This happens in other nations too. It's not a coup.