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Deputies pulled off streets after guns fail range testing
Recordnet.com ^ | 05/09/2014 | Jason Anderson

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:16:48 AM PDT by aimhigh

The San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office pulled its deputies off the streets Thursday afternoon and asked other local law enforcement agencies to respond to calls of service after a number of newly purchased duty weapons failed gun range testing, officials said.

"We recently purchased over 300 Sig Sauer .40-caliber handguns, and during qualification on the range, a couple of them failed," said Deputy Les Garcia, a Sheriff's Office spokesman. "Our range master contacted Sig, and Sig identified a part in this gun that will potentially cause them to malfunction."

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TOPICS: Government; US: California
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To: Tijeras_Slim

When my daughter was with the police, she used a .40 Sig. Loved it.


41 posted on 05/09/2014 10:32:15 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: dangerdoc
re: My S&W 625 used to have repeated lockup from screws backing out. I finally solved the problem with loctite.

Weekly cleaning, oiling and tightening screws may be one of the reasons, I have never had a problem with any wheel gun I have owned. A lesson learned from an old instructor many years ago, who probably never heard of Loctite

42 posted on 05/09/2014 10:35:44 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Same here. It’s why all but one of our now lost-in-a-boating-accident handguns was a Sig.


43 posted on 05/09/2014 10:36:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: DCBryan1

hmmm.

My P220s fired everything I put in them. .45 ACP.


44 posted on 05/09/2014 10:38:35 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good and bad news for the dogs of the county.


45 posted on 05/09/2014 10:43:34 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Jewbacca
not due to design problems but due to hurried manufacture.

Absolutely the WORST mistake any manufacturing company can make. Shipping numbers over insuring quality will doom your profit, doom your reputation, doom your market share. This was a war I fought for 25 years of my career.

46 posted on 05/09/2014 10:55:16 AM PDT by super7man
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To: DCBryan1

“...some range personnel called it “female/queer limp wristing”.”

The reason the .40 Short & Weak was developed is because the FBI females could not handle the best semi-automatic handgun round ever developed, the 10mm. They came up with a weakened “FBI load” that became the .40.

A .38 special or 9mm in the head beats a .45 in the vest every time.


47 posted on 05/09/2014 11:07:05 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, I don’t think it is the majority, but its enough that people have complained.


48 posted on 05/09/2014 11:11:01 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: showme_the_Glory

I have an older model P229 and have easily shot over 2,000 rounds through it without a hiccup ever. I also have a drop-in 357Sig barrel that I also have shot a lot of rounds through.

I have used my P229 in advanced handgun courses and other training classes and it has never missed a beat and is my go-to weapon.

I’m very surprised at this claim of failure and will monitor what the problem might be?


49 posted on 05/09/2014 11:11:06 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Tupelo

“I do not think I have ever heard of a “failed gun range test” by a S&W Highway Patrolman or a Colt Trooper.”

A Colt Trooper is just a Python without the polished bright blue finish and full length lug. Early models were just called the .357.

I had a 4-screw Highway Patrolman that I sold to a collector friend.


50 posted on 05/09/2014 11:12:54 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Disambiguator

They’ll LOVE what’s under mine, then!!!

HAHAHA!!!

(Couldn’t resist.... had to....)


51 posted on 05/09/2014 11:22:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Axenolith

Cheap is good. I LOVE cheap... You can call me “cheap bastard”, and I take it as a compliment!!!!!

:^)


52 posted on 05/09/2014 11:23:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Tupelo

Hard to say, I asked a gunsmith about it, he said it wasn’t uncommon and recommended the loctite.

I keep my guns very clean and lubricate per manufacturer instruction. I also had a crusty old instructor.


53 posted on 05/09/2014 11:23:59 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: aimhigh

Unreliable pistols can rattle you a good one.

The most unnerving one I’ve used was a very worn .45 ACP, that would fire two rounds with a single trigger pull.

A very sudden loss of confidence, and instead of a pistol, you feel like you are holding a live hand grenade. Even on a range you don’t feel confident enough to just lay it down until you’ve pulled its magazine and cleared it.


54 posted on 05/09/2014 11:24:37 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Tupelo

Hard to say, I asked a gunsmith about it, he said it wasn’t uncommon and recommended the loctite.

I keep my guns very clean and lubricate per manufacturer instruction. I also had a crusty old instructor.

Maybe it is the stainless steel. I don’t ever remember having a similar problem with blued revolvers.


55 posted on 05/09/2014 11:25:43 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: NFHale
They’ll LOVE what’s under mine, then!!!
56 posted on 05/09/2014 11:34:01 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Blueflag

Any idea about bore size of the p220? I was shooting one last week and the bullets were tumbling. The same rounds were not tumbling with a 1911 and a S&W we were shooting.


57 posted on 05/09/2014 11:35:41 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: andyk
This is the manifestation of a new theory of law enforcement that has absolved LEOs of accepting any more risk than the rest of us take when we leave the house.

Union officer-safety rules. It's why you almost never see a single officer make a traffic stop any more.

58 posted on 05/09/2014 11:44:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: driftdiver
Just goes to show, there is never a bad reason to buy another gun.

LOL, love it!
59 posted on 05/09/2014 11:51:23 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“This statement is purely my opinion, but SIG Sauer and especially SIG USA is today manufacturing at about the same level of competency as Taurus.”

I know there are a lot of Taurus haters out there, but I like mine. My PT92 Beretta clone has over 7000 rounds through it with no problems after the break-in, and my 709 has never had any problems since I got it.

The most important thing about any firearm is that it goes bang EVERY time. My Tauri do.


60 posted on 05/09/2014 12:06:15 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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