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RUSH: The Tea Party is Far from Dead -- in North Carolina or Anywhere Else
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| May 08, 2014
| Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 05/09/2014 4:06:58 AM PDT by Yosemitest
The Tea Party is Far from Dead --in North Carolina or Anywhere Else
May 08, 2014
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RUSH: Some election news out of North Carolina. You know I don't get involved in primaries.
I never have gotten involved in primaries.
From my standpoint, it's always been a -- not losing proposition.
It's just policy-wise, basically driven by my instincts,stay away from primaries.
So I didn't talk much about what was going on in North Carolina,
and there was a lot going on in North Carolina.
North Carolina is thought to hold the key election determining who will control the Senate, the Republicans or the Democrats, particularly the Kay Hagan race.
So there was a big election this past Tuesday, and there was a Tea Party candidate that a lot of people supportedwho got handily defeated by what is considered to be an establishment toady.
And that may not be quite an accurate representation.
I know some Tea Party people.The Tea Party, by the way, is not a party. It's a name.
The Tea Party is a coalition of grassroots activists that have just come together.
There is no official Tea Party.
They're idea people and they're not totally unified on everything,
but they're identifiable as people who are fed up with the establishment of both parties, including the Republican Party.
They're fed up with the spending.
They're fed up with out of-control-Washington.
They're fed up with growth of government.
They're fed up with that. This Senate race in North Carolina, I talked to a lot of people who would call themselves Tea Party people or sympathizers who were not particularly in favor of the supposed Tea Party candidate there.
But that's not the race in North Carolina that's really explanatory.
The media is taking that Senate race in North Carolina and, predictably, they're running with the newsthat the Tea Party's dead,
that it doesn't exist,
that all these powerful people came out and endorsed this candidate,and they went down in flames.
It's the end of Ted Cruz.
It's the end of Mike Lee.
You Tea Party people may as well just give up and either join the Republican Party establishmentor
I mean, that's the tenor of the coverage, and it's actually quite different.
There happened to be another election in North Carolina on Tuesday that is far more representative than the Senate race was.
And that was North Carolina Third District, where the incumbent is a Republican, Walter Jones.
The Democrats and the establishment types in the Republican Party went in there,there was a combined one million dollars spent on a single district raceto get rid of the 20-year incumbent, Walter Jones,
And that is the true indicator of the strength of the Tea Partyand of, I would say, the weakness of the establishment.
The Republican establishment wanted to get rid of Walter Jones because he went against the leadership on the debt limit voteand a couple of other really defining things.
So the leadership, quite naturally, was out to get him.
The Democrats piled on, they wanted his seat, and it went up in flames.
Walter Jones held on.
Let me read you an account.
"In a race that saw big outside money spent by 'independent groups,' the Washington establishment suffered a defeat.
I am not talking about the GOP primary for the US Senate race to face Sen. Kay Hagan,which, by the end, was not really competitive."
This is Francis De Luca, by the way, writing the piece here in Civitas.
"I am talking about the 3rd Congressional District in eastern North Carolina.
The incumbent, Rep. Walter Jones Jr., defeated challenger Taylor Griffin in a race that saw Griffins D.C. and New York allies independently spend more than a million dollars to defeat Jones.
This does not count the money Griffin was able to raise for his campaign from the same well-connected crowd of insiders, enabling him to out raise Jones in the final reporting period.By the way, a million dollars goes a long way
in the Eastern North Carolina media market."
That's a lot of money for one district.
And I'll guarantee you Walter Jones was supported by Tea Party voters, and he won.
"Proportionally, more money was spent in the 3rd District primary than was spent on the US Senate primarywhen compared to candidate spending.
The disparity is even greater when you factor in the cost of the 3rd District media market versus the cost of statewide media buys.
This is not an indictment of independent expenditures or of more money in campaigns.
In fact, campaign spending of all types is good -- it drives turnout.
In the 3rd District, the turnout was up over 60 percent from the primary in 2010.That meant voters learned more about both candidates,and they preferred the incumbent to the Washington insider."
The incumbent, again, had fallen out with the Republican leadership, Walter Jones.
"Why did this race attract such big money in a primary?"
when everybody was focused on the Senate race?By the way, Kay Hagan doesn't have a prayer, I don't think. But it's early.
Too much of anything can happen, but as I say, this November is gonna be huge.
If just half of the lies of Obamacare had been known, this wouldn't be a wave election.
We'd be talking about the Democrat Party funeral.
It's one of the up sides there is in all of this.
"Why did this race attract such big money in a primary?Walter Jones is a 20-year incumbent, first getting elected to Congress in 1994 after having served multiple terms in the state legislature.Jones has had a record that can best be described as independent.
He is solidly conservative on social issues."
A social issues conservative WON !
They tell you that can't be done, either."He has opposed increasing the debt limit and the bailouts Congress passed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis."
So he's conservative on the financial side as well.
This last, by the way, is why the leadership is unhappy with him."What appears to be his biggest flaw to his colleagues in D.C. (but not his voters) was his falling out with the House leadership.
This resulted in his being removed from his seat on the Financial Services Committee.
He was one of several GOP members removed from committee assignments immediately after the 2012 elections,"'cause he was considered to be -- well, not traitorous,but he had strayed from the shackles of the leadership.
"The 2014 campaign against Jones looks like an attempt to send a message to other potential House GOP --"
this is what's key about it.
We're told that the Tea Party House Republicans don't have a prayer because of what happened in this Senate race.
We're told the media's got the Tea Party buriedand these Tea Party House freshmen and other young Turks that are Tea Party,
"You guys, your days are gone, the Tea Party's finished."
And the point here isthat this campaign against Walter Jones looked like an attempt to send a message to other potential Republican renegades,that the leadership and the D.C. establishment could come after you
They came after Walter Jones with big money, and they failed.
And I think that race is a little bit more indicative,A, of the strength of the Tea Party,
B, public moods and attitudes, and a predictor of future elections in North Carolinathan what happened in that Senate primary.
The establishment's guy in North Carolina,Tillis I think was his name,
he didn't even get 50%, with all the backing that the D.C. establishment and the consultant class, It was pretty split.
"The other interesting story in this election battle was the fascination of the media and lobbyists in D.C. with this race.
This probably is a direct result of Griffins having operated in the bureaucratic, media and communications circles in D.C."
So don't allow yourself to be deflated by whatever the media coverage is out of North Carolina.
It's not all bad.
And, in fact, there are a whole lot of positives to take from it, if you are inclined to want to take a positive.
Some people think that's missing reality and so forth.
But I'm telling you, they came after Walter Jones BIG TIME'cause he just angered the leadership,
and they threw a DC establishment inside-the-Beltway guy at him,
and the Republican establishment was aligned WITH the Democrats trying to get rid of Walter Jones,
and THEY BOTH FAILED,with a million dollars, in a SINGLE congressional race.
Walter Jones,known for bucking the leadership on the debt limit.
Known to be a prominent social conservative.
Violated every tenet.
There's no way this guy should have won.
If America has become what they want you to believe it has, there was no way Walter Jones wins, and he did.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: establishment; francisdeluca; kayhagan; mikelee; republican; repwalterjonesjr; taylorgriffin; teaparty; tedcruz; walterjones
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posted on
05/09/2014 9:23:31 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
SOTC is Servant of the Cross, a Freeper who shares some inside knowledge with me vis a vis Rush’ show.
And thanks for the typo spellcheck
is that really important?
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posted on
05/09/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: PeteB570
NC is my territory also. Do you disagree with any of my assessments ?
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posted on
05/09/2014 10:00:15 AM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: C. Edmund Wright; Yosemitest
and in the same spirit of irrelevant minutia, it should be istbasotcbfd instead of just sotc.
To: C. Edmund Wright
is that really important?
Actually ... it is.
Accidents happen, typos due to "fumble fingers" and "brain farts",
but the "Post Reply" has the "Spell" button just below the 'Tagline' on the left, and it really helps ...
especially as you get older.
Although it isn't much good when you use the 'wrong correctly spelled word' that sounds the same .
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posted on
05/09/2014 10:32:04 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Servant of the Cross
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posted on
05/09/2014 10:46:59 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
Now you really lost me.The 'answer' is found on my FR "Profile" page.
And it, like bye vs. buy, is truly irrelevant minutia. IMHO.
To: Servant of the Cross
Pass, it’s not worth my time to track it down.
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posted on
05/09/2014 11:28:23 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
you go back to your cubicle, you miserable left brained type B boring bureaucrat!!!!!
I’m dealing with big issues and ideas here
..I’ve not time or patience for minutae nazis.
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:04:42 PM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: C. Edmund Wright
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:04:54 PM PDT
by
PeteB570
( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
To: PeteB570
Uh, okay, some people might have considered that an invitation to discuss what I said that you disagree with.
I am right on this
..but am willing to hear alternative views.
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:07:22 PM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: PeteB570
You are really off the rails if you think Jones is a tea party guy. All the local tea parties disagree with you and so does Sarah Palin.
You have fallen victim to Jone’s ads which are misleading.
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:08:49 PM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: C. Edmund Wright
I don’t believe you read my post close enough to understand it.
But I forgive you.
By the way don’t forget to donate to FR.
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:14:49 PM PDT
by
PeteB570
( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
To: PeteB570
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:19:46 PM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: C. Edmund Wright
Sensitive, aren’t we ... (hehehehehehehe)
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posted on
05/09/2014 12:29:10 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
I don’t suffer bureaucrats, never have. It’s not sensitive, it’s proper. No one should suffer bureaucrats, except as at a bare minimum. Don’t suffer those fools who major in minors either.
Why don’t you go re arrange the lavatory.
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posted on
05/09/2014 1:12:00 PM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: C. Edmund Wright
I don't care about the "who" of the GOP I care about the "what", as in the "What The What???".
McConnell is a socialist and he's proven it time and again over all of his 30 years of power! I'll always vote, every single time, even if there is no one to vote for. I'll also try to talk local people I can vote for to run.
Concerning the 2016 election the GOP has determined that my Commonwealth is always a complete non-factor. I guess I can thank McConnell for that as well. If Bevin loses and we somehow become a factor for Cruz 2016 then I may rejoin the party.
To: Yosemitest; yongin; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj
Walter Jones was the RINO in that race, not Griffin.
Honest to God Rush, come on. Come ON!
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posted on
05/09/2014 9:28:00 PM PDT
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
To: Impy
I left NC in 1985 when the military sent me to South Korea.
I lived there for about 6 years, and I'm not that familiar with Walter Jones.
But I TRUST Rush, and if he says it, I'd bet he's correct.
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posted on
05/09/2014 10:22:05 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest; C. Edmund Wright; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; MitchellC; ...
You shouldn’t blindly trust anyone. Rush is wrong here.
What he repeated was Pro-Jones propaganda, he was either fooled or didn’t do his due diligence. Rush is human and not infallible.
Google Jones and check out his record, cross google his name with “RINO”. He’s a former rat who’s been drifting more and more to the left. National Journal ranks him as a centrist. He’s full of shite when he claims to be conservative. Palin endorsed Griffin. So too I would figure did any local tea party group that’s not run by Paulbots.
And no, I’m not a neocon who just hates him because he’s not pro-war, I’m not either, but nor do I ascribe to the Kucinich/Ron Paul foreign policy like Jones does. Clearly he’s a guy that never would have switched to “R” if the D’s hadn’t started losing power in NC.
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posted on
05/10/2014 12:05:29 AM PDT
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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