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I've always said that history will be kinder to him. For me, the first President that was close in age to myself at the time he was elected.

It'll be interesting to see how he's judged even 10 years from now. But interestingly enough, this article, from a NY Times writer essentially admits that his successor won by blaming him and that now, that blame may not entirely be justified.

Go figure.

1 posted on 05/08/2014 9:51:24 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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Yahoo News is extreme hard left.
It makes Obama/Pelosi look like Tea Party members.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 9:54:27 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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A great honorable man who the left and media slimed as he was doing the right thing for America. Execpt he should have vetoed spending bills.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 9:54:44 AM PDT by ncfool (Hilary 2016 Procol Harum or Boko Haram. What difference does it make?)
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“Obama may not ultimately be remembered as a great president (though he’ll likely fare better than Bush). But at some point, we should all be able to grant that he’s at least a good American.”

Then again, maybe Matt Bai is certifiable. Wow!


4 posted on 05/08/2014 9:55:25 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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I have always liked and respected him.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 9:56:05 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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There were WMDs in Saddam's Iraq. Bush was right.

The Russkies' Speznast helped Saddam convoy them to Syria.

I think some of them made it to Libya.

By the way, where's Allegra?

6 posted on 05/08/2014 9:56:14 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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For me, the first President that was close in age to myself at the time he was elected.

Bill Clinton is one month younger than W.

8 posted on 05/08/2014 9:58:38 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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George W. Bush was a divisive and unsuccessful president

Really? Because he looks like George Friggin' Washington compared to THIS guy.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 10:00:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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let me just clarify something for you: George W. Bush was a divisive and unsuccessful president. Economically, internationally, culturally — you name the category of leadership

Barack H. Obama IS a divisive and unsuccessful president man child. Economically, internationally, culturally - you name the category of leadership...

There, I fixed it.

11 posted on 05/08/2014 10:01:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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He may have not been a monster, but he was not a great president. That’s just being honest. If we want to move forward we have to recognize the deficiencies of the people we supported so we don’t make the same mistakes.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 10:02:30 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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bump


14 posted on 05/08/2014 10:03:22 AM PDT by EveningStar
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It’s easy to get your numbers up when the media isn’t hammering you all the time.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 10:03:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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My approval of Obama will rise immeasurably once he is out of office. At the moment, Barack Hussein Obama is an evil, anti-American thug with the power to destroy my country, and no one in history has lower approval from me than BHO. Once out of office, Barack Hussein Obama will be an evil, anti-American thug with far less direct power. I’ll fear him a lot less when he no longer has the power to destroy freedom, and I’m anxious to finally reach that glorious day.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 10:03:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Simple answer is that they are paving the way for Jeb because the enemedia is scared sh*tless that someone like Ted Cruz could actually win the GOP nomination.

But don't worry, once Jeb is safely nominated, he will get the Romney treatment.

20 posted on 05/08/2014 10:03:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Well, most academic historians are Democrats and have an urge to write hagiographies about Democrat Presidents, so Obama will get lots of mulligans and excuses. Maybe the academics will figure that the meme that “W was the worst President ever” is so self-evident that they won’t bother writing books about GWB, so the handful of conservative historians will have a chance to fill the gap.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 10:05:38 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The Media is currently rehabilitating the image of GWB that they destroyed... WHY?

Because the Elite want Jeb Bush to run in 2016 that is WHY!


26 posted on 05/08/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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If 911 hadn’t happened, he would probably been viewed much differently. I wouldn’t have wanted to be in his shos for a second when those planes crashed into the towers. Everything changed after that. He was thrust iton a an extremely difficult and stressful situation pretty quickly after assuming office. I respect the man. He had to do whatt he had to do. I think some of our agencies took advantage of some of the legislation that was enacted and he took a bad rap for it. I don’t think he acted intentionally to harm The People like the current traior and liar in chief.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 10:07:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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The financial crisis happened at the end of the Bush presidency, so how in the world can anyone reasonably blame Obama for that? Plus, Bush was president for nearly 8 years before said crisis, so he rightly deserves some blame for it.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending Obama, because I think he was the absolutely worst possible person to deal with the financial crisis. He’s only prolonged the misery and made it much worse. However, I don’t see how we can blame him for creating the problems to start with.

I’m not a big fan of President Bush, but I don’t think he was all bad. For example, I think he’s an honorable and moral person, but he’s was no conservative. He did virtually nothing to reign in the federal government and he couldn’t articulate a clear vision of where he wanted to lead the country.

I wish President Bush well, but I hope to never see another Bush in politics again. They and their GOPe ilk are a big part of what’s wrong with the Republican Party today.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 10:08:34 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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But interestingly enough, this article, from a NY Times writer essentially admits that his successor won by blaming him and that now, that blame may not entirely be justified.

Actually, the article bashes Bush in all the usual ways. It only acknowledges how absurd the most ridiculous accusations about being a war criminal and conspiracy crap a lot of it was. It praises Bill Clinton while simultaneously suggesting that Clinton was even more vilified than Bush.

The truth is, Bush was great on a great many issues. BUT, where he went wrong, he went REALLY wrong (Government expansion, Education, Medicaid/Medicair, etc.) On National Defense, Bush started strong and wimped out when the winds turned. Had he brutally executed the wars, ie not letting sacred mooslim holy spots become forbidden targets and sanctuaries, a lot more innocent Iraqi's would have been killed. But it would have been over by now. Hell, had his father not stopped when the "Highway of Death" was shown on TV, Stormin Normin would have taken out the entire Iraqi military and Saddam Hussein and Iraq wouldn't have been an issue after 9/11. In fact, had we replaced the government in Iraq the first time, we likely would have had a decent foothold next door to Iran, which, back then would have been a serious deterrent and kept Iran in line (as well as much of the ME). They would still hate us but they would be behaving today.

In the end, I think W. Bush was a mediocre President that deserved to be vilified most for what he did in his second term. At one point we had both the House and Senate. THEN we took a hard left with all that power. It's politically unforgivable and the reason the TEA Party came to be. Bush fomented the conservative frustration but Obama has cemented the movement.

32 posted on 05/08/2014 10:15:27 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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But interestingly enough, this article, from a NY Times writer ...

You bet that's interesting. The Left would love the Bushies riding high again.

The man was a complete disaster for the USA, the GOP, and the world. Live in Bushbot denial if it makes you feel better. I won't get fooled again.

39 posted on 05/08/2014 10:50:46 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain 2016)
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He’s no monster. He was unfit to be president, left the country worse than when he started, and got the job because he comes from a political family.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 11:00:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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