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Insurers say 80 percent of ObamaCare enrollees have paid premiums
thehill.com ^ | may 7, 2014 |  Ferdous Al-Faruque and Elise Viebeck 

Posted on 05/08/2014 5:00:32 AM PDT by lowbridge

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1 posted on 05/08/2014 5:00:32 AM PDT by lowbridge
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While I don’t have empirical evidence to support my claim, I don’t believe this to be true.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 5:05:24 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: lowbridge

Big deal. What will the payments in future months look like as the payees continue to be squeezed and grow resentful?


3 posted on 05/08/2014 5:12:26 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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I believe a large per centage haven’t a clue about deductibles or copays.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 5:15:00 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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I call BULLSCAT!


5 posted on 05/08/2014 5:20:30 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I can believe it. They had to enroll as they discovered when filing their taxes. Then they paid their first premium with their tax refund.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 5:22:39 AM PDT by petitfour
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I have an Aetna employer provided plan in my state but its what I’ve always had before Obamacare. I wonder if they’re counting plans like mine as well.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 5:22:49 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: petitfour

But I have no evidence of this. It is a guess on my part.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 5:23:38 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: lowbridge

They say what Der Fuhrer TELLS them to say.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 5:24:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Are they counting government subsidy payments as paid premiums?


10 posted on 05/08/2014 5:27:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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Very easy to believe that 80% have paid their FIRST premium.

Very DIFFICULT to believe that most can afford to KEEP paying their premiums.

I wonder what percentage of people next year will ATTEMPT to cancel their insurance because rates are going to double again?


11 posted on 05/08/2014 5:30:49 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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""These are dynamic figures and do not reflect final enrollment numbers, as some enrollees have not yet reached their payment due dates," Wingle said. "

What is he talking about? My agent tells me that no insurance goes into effect till money is paid, when I sign up for anything I have to pay a binder.

12 posted on 05/08/2014 5:32:53 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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80% is good eh? How many who had insurance before they were forced to have it actually paid their first month’s insurance bill? My guess, 100%.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 5:33:00 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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paid in full or just the subsidy was paid by the government?


14 posted on 05/08/2014 5:35:00 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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Insurance companies are all about lying. Are they inflating their claims? Of course, and they are no doubt being encouraged by 0bama. Insurance companies need to say that patients have paid their premiums, otherwise providers will refuse to see the patients, because providers bear the risk for patients with unpaid premiums.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 5:36:35 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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Major health insurers say at least 80 percent of the people enrolled in their ObamaCare plans have paid their first premium.

Don't believe it, but even if it's true, is that something to crow about?

16 posted on 05/08/2014 5:42:11 AM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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I have an Aetna employer provided plan in my state but its what I’ve always had before Obamacare. I wonder if they’re counting plans like mine as well.

That could be. Say your health insurance plan meets the criteria of obamacare - ie. you weren't forced into another plan. So if you happened to renew this year - personally or through your employer - then I wonder if they are counting you (and me) as part of that 70% or more???

Can't say I blame the big insurance companies. They don't want federal regulators and auditors putting them out of business... A definite, very real threat with this group of criminals running things.

17 posted on 05/08/2014 5:43:52 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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What will the payments in future months look like as the payees continue to be squeezed and grow resentful?

BINGO!! How many of those payments were made because surgery/some other need was imminently present and as soon as those medical needs are met, people will stop paying?

I'm also curious to know how many of those 80% went on MEDICAID and pay a minimal "premium"? Why doesn't the media do a deep-dive and investigate who these "80%" are??????

18 posted on 05/08/2014 5:48:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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There have been a lot of bogus numbers coming out the ministry of information lately. Global warming, Unemployment, Inflation, Economic growth, ‘Budget surplus,” Commiecare “enrollment,” Commiecare “payees,” etc.

All these creative numbers rely on an audience who cannot do math, nor understand economics, science and history.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 5:49:14 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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Health insurance company CEOs jumped into bed with Obama believing that they will get millions of dollars in new premiums once Obamacare is fully implemented.

They are still in bed with Obama and are enjoying the warm and fuzzy feelings.

Health Insurance CEO Pay Sky-Rockets in 2013 Some See Their Compensation Double PR Newswire

PHILADELPHIA, May 5, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is being released by Healthcare-NOW!: Health Insurance CEO Pay Sky-Rockets in 2013

Chief executive officers at Fortune 500 health insurance companies, who have opposed new regulations under the Affordable Care Act, emerged this month as one of the ACA's greatest beneficiaries. Recently filed financial reports show that average compensation for these top nine health insurance CEOs rose by more than 19 percent in 2013, while several of the nation's largest insurers more than doubled CEO pay.

The biggest winner was Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini, who received a staggering $30.7 million compensation package in 2013. This marks the largest payout to any health insurance executive since passage of the ACA and exceeded the compensation of the next two highest paid health insurer CEOs combined. The Bertolini pay package, which included a large "special one-time performance-based retention award," represented a 131 percent increase over his $13.3 million compensation in 2012. (See table below.)

Molina Healthcare and Centene, both Fortune 500 insurers that specialize in privately managed Medicaid plans, roughly doubled CEO compensation in 2013. J. Mario Molina received $11.9 million, up from $5 million in 2012, while Centene's CEO Michael Neidorff made $14.5 million, up from $8.5 million. Overall, average CEO pay across Fortune 500 health insurers rose from $11.6 million in 2012 to $13.9 million in 2013.

The disclosures of higher CEO pay coincided with several of the same companies announcing better-than-expected earnings in the first quarter of 2014, even as they signaled that patients and businesses should prepare for increased insurance premiums in 2015.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1895745#ixzz317zqxBla

20 posted on 05/08/2014 5:50:56 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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